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Casual racism is not ok man, this has nothing to do with nationality. I know tech industry workers are sensitive about outsourcing, but don't make it about nati

by rtx 6y ago

Casual racism is not ok man, this has nothing to do with nationality. I know tech industry workers are sensitive about outsourcing, but don't make it about nationality. If these companies are happy to sell in India they should not have problem hiring. India regularly extradites people who have been indicted in USA.

ikeboy 6y ago
You can't honestly tell me you believe the deterrence effect is just as strong whether someone is US based or not.
- rtx 6y ago
  It can be, Indian call center scammers are more scared of FBI than Indian law enforcement. Criminals have different value set nothing to do with nationality. We still have a article on the front page about an American CEO embezzing funds. You will not hear anyone saying be careful of American CEOs.
  - ikeboy 6y ago
    That's not the relevant comparison.
    - frequentnapper 6y ago
      So you're saying that it's ok to for Amazon to sell in India but not hire there?
      - ikeboy 6y ago
        Please read the above comments, in particular the part about critical business functions.
        frequentnapper 6y ago
        You originally stated that: This has long been a major issue with Amazon - often the people making the decisions as to whether a business with dozens of employees gets to keep selling or goes bankrupt are being paid less than US minimum wage in another country. So I'm assuming you're saying that they shouldn't hire in India apparently because of less than minimum wage. So these kinds of things can be avoided if Amazon were to hire decision makers who make minimum wage or whatever the lowest amount they can get away with in US? As you know, the sellers and buyers are global. So should Amazon divide its operations so that Indian employees only process sales and purchases based in India? What happens with sales from India to USA or vice-versa? I am failing to grasp what exactly it is that you are saying here. With respect to extradition, India and USA already have a treaty.
        ikeboy 6y ago
        >So I'm assuming you're saying that they shouldn't hire in India apparently because of less than minimum wage. That's not what I said. >So these kinds of things can be avoided if Amazon were to hire decision makers who make minimum wage or whatever the lowest amount they can get away with in US? That would address some of the issues and not others, all of which were laid out in my original comment. (Hint: read the words after "Indian".) >process sales and purchases This had nothing to do with my comment, which is clearly not about people processing sales.
        frequentnapper 6y ago
        >That would address some of the issues and not others, all of which were laid out in my original comment. (Hint: read the words after "Indian".) I originally literally quoted the entire sentence from your original comment, which came after "Indian". We could do without the snide remarks. I was genuinely trying to get your position, but all you are doing is making snide remarks and attempting to make yourself sound more knowledgeable than you are about the issue.
        ikeboy 6y ago
      - ycombonator 6y ago
        Nationalistic troll army from India in full riot gear.
  - Thorrez 6y ago
    If criminals in India are more afraid of the FBI than Indian law enforcement, that tells me Indian law enforcement is bad. I want my employees to be under the jurisdiction of good law enforcement, not bad law enforcement.
    - rtx 6y ago
      That's xenophobia clouding your judgement. These crimes are happening in USA so of course US law enforcement gets them.
      - Thorrez 6y ago
        >Indian call center scammers are more scared of FBI than Indian law enforcement. I thought that "Indian call center" means that it's in India.
- cscurmudgeon 6y ago
  You could have said that the first time rather than use “Indian”. You do realize there are Indians living in the US and under US jurisdiction?
  - ikeboy 6y ago
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Indian https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Indian Notice definition A. My usage is valid. If someone thought I meant definition B, I'm sorry about that, I thought it was clear in context, given that OP listed the location and not the ancestry.

by rtx 6y ago

ikeboy 6y ago

You can't honestly tell me you believe the deterrence effect is just as strong whether someone is US based or not.

rtx 6y ago
It can be, Indian call center scammers are more scared of FBI than Indian law enforcement. Criminals have different value set nothing to do with nationality. We still have a article on the front page about an American CEO embezzing funds. You will not hear anyone saying be careful of American CEOs.
- ikeboy 6y ago
  That's not the relevant comparison.
  - frequentnapper 6y ago
    So you're saying that it's ok to for Amazon to sell in India but not hire there?
    - ikeboy 6y ago
      Please read the above comments, in particular the part about critical business functions.
      - frequentnapper 6y ago
        You originally stated that: This has long been a major issue with Amazon - often the people making the decisions as to whether a business with dozens of employees gets to keep selling or goes bankrupt are being paid less than US minimum wage in another country. So I'm assuming you're saying that they shouldn't hire in India apparently because of less than minimum wage. So these kinds of things can be avoided if Amazon were to hire decision makers who make minimum wage or whatever the lowest amount they can get away with in US? As you know, the sellers and buyers are global. So should Amazon divide its operations so that Indian employees only process sales and purchases based in India? What happens with sales from India to USA or vice-versa? I am failing to grasp what exactly it is that you are saying here. With respect to extradition, India and USA already have a treaty.
        ikeboy 6y ago
        >So I'm assuming you're saying that they shouldn't hire in India apparently because of less than minimum wage. That's not what I said. >So these kinds of things can be avoided if Amazon were to hire decision makers who make minimum wage or whatever the lowest amount they can get away with in US? That would address some of the issues and not others, all of which were laid out in my original comment. (Hint: read the words after "Indian".) >process sales and purchases This had nothing to do with my comment, which is clearly not about people processing sales.
        frequentnapper 6y ago
        >That would address some of the issues and not others, all of which were laid out in my original comment. (Hint: read the words after "Indian".) I originally literally quoted the entire sentence from your original comment, which came after "Indian". We could do without the snide remarks. I was genuinely trying to get your position, but all you are doing is making snide remarks and attempting to make yourself sound more knowledgeable than you are about the issue.
        ikeboy 6y ago
    - ycombonator 6y ago
      Nationalistic troll army from India in full riot gear.
- Thorrez 6y ago
  If criminals in India are more afraid of the FBI than Indian law enforcement, that tells me Indian law enforcement is bad. I want my employees to be under the jurisdiction of good law enforcement, not bad law enforcement.
  - rtx 6y ago
    That's xenophobia clouding your judgement. These crimes are happening in USA so of course US law enforcement gets them.
    - Thorrez 6y ago
      >Indian call center scammers are more scared of FBI than Indian law enforcement. I thought that "Indian call center" means that it's in India.
cscurmudgeon 6y ago
You could have said that the first time rather than use “Indian”. You do realize there are Indians living in the US and under US jurisdiction?
- ikeboy 6y ago
  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Indian https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Indian Notice definition A. My usage is valid. If someone thought I meant definition B, I'm sorry about that, I thought it was clear in context, given that OP listed the location and not the ancestry.