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Also this is a good article written a few years ago that tries to tamp down a bit of the RBG cult, and that she should have retired during Obamas term if she re

Also this is a good article written a few years ago that tries to tamp down a bit of the RBG cult, and that she should have retired during Obamas term if she really was concerned about keeping a liberal justice on the SCOTUS. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/what-cult-ruth-bader-ginsburg-rbg-got-wrong-obama-trump/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/what-cult-ruth-...

tunesmith 6y ago
When? Was she to have perfect foresight in the first two years of Obama's two terms that that was her only window?
- res0nat0r 6y ago
  When she was ~75 years old, and that doesn't take any political foresight to know she was old then.
  - p1necone 6y ago
    The foresight wasn't about her being old, the foresight was about just how much the next Republican administration would skirt precedence and the rule of law.
- remote_phone 6y ago
  It was obvious she should have retired then. I think she was great but her not retiring during Obama’s last term was arrogance. And now there is a good chance that filling the Supreme Court with another republican justice will motivate a lot of anti-trump voters who will hold their nose and vote him in just to pack the courts.
  - tunesmith 6y ago
    I said the first two years of his first term. That was her only window.
    - remote_phone 6y ago
      That is absurd. She could have retired halfway through Obama’s second term. Obama didn’t have any political courage or will to fight McConnell. He was thinking “we will win the next time anyway” which was also political arrogance. If he did have courage we would have had Merrick Garland. It wouldn’t have been easy but it would have been worth the fight. If you’re saying that he was powerless against the Republicans then what’s the point in a president?
      - res0nat0r 6y ago
        What could he have done?
      - tunesmith 6y ago
        "If Obama had courage we would have had Merrick Garland" is a non-obvious conclusion that has widespread disagreement. If you're sure it's correct, can you post your reasoning of the techniques that Obama and the Democrats could have used that would have inexorably led to Garland's confirmation? Please make the argument.

tunesmith 6y ago

When? Was she to have perfect foresight in the first two years of Obama's two terms that that was her only window?

res0nat0r 6y ago
When she was ~75 years old, and that doesn't take any political foresight to know she was old then.
- p1necone 6y ago
  The foresight wasn't about her being old, the foresight was about just how much the next Republican administration would skirt precedence and the rule of law.
remote_phone 6y ago
It was obvious she should have retired then. I think she was great but her not retiring during Obama’s last term was arrogance. And now there is a good chance that filling the Supreme Court with another republican justice will motivate a lot of anti-trump voters who will hold their nose and vote him in just to pack the courts.
- tunesmith 6y ago
  I said the first two years of his first term. That was her only window.
  - remote_phone 6y ago
    That is absurd. She could have retired halfway through Obama’s second term. Obama didn’t have any political courage or will to fight McConnell. He was thinking “we will win the next time anyway” which was also political arrogance. If he did have courage we would have had Merrick Garland. It wouldn’t have been easy but it would have been worth the fight. If you’re saying that he was powerless against the Republicans then what’s the point in a president?
    - res0nat0r 6y ago
      What could he have done?
    - tunesmith 6y ago
      "If Obama had courage we would have had Merrick Garland" is a non-obvious conclusion that has widespread disagreement. If you're sure it's correct, can you post your reasoning of the techniques that Obama and the Democrats could have used that would have inexorably led to Garland's confirmation? Please make the argument.