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With the filibuster gone there’s not much Democrats can do to stop it if they can muster 50 votes.

by koolba 6y ago

tyingq 6y ago
I still feel like that may not be easy. Doesn't take many Republicans (4?) that are skeptical about Trump being re-elected, and open to tit-for-tat to stall or halt this.
- krapp 6y ago
  This is the Republicans' opportunity to stack the court overwhelmingly in their favor and guarantee the end of progressive and liberal influence in Constitutional law for a generation. The repeal of everything from the ACA and gay marriage to Roe V. Wade is on the table. They're not going to turn that down just to mess with Trump, this is way bigger than Trump.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    That is compelling, but I wouldn't overlook tit-for-tat. Senators live to be re-elected, and there are lots of close races in this exact timeframe. Four "we will take a dive" promises could make a difference.
    - lovehashbrowns 6y ago
      I don't think you understand how all-in the republican party is on trump. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/24/trumps-approval-ratings-so-far-are-unusually-stable-and-deeply-partisan/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/24/trumps-appr... Also see: The most recent RNC.
      - tyingq 6y ago
        "About four-in-ten Americans (38%) approve of Trump’s job performance" I assume that is well below the percentage of Americans that call themselves Republican. Not fully understanding your point. The language in your link seems to confirm it's a serious issue for Trump.
        lovehashbrowns 6y ago
        That depends entirely on the votes that happen this year. The point is, those republicans aren't going to risk losing almost all their guaranteed votes that come from republican voters.
- abawany 6y ago
  If you are thinking about Senator Susan "Concerned" Collins and etc., you are pining for fool's gold. They make token noise and then comply.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    Are there 4 that are facing an uncertain re-election campaign right now?
    - abawany 6y ago
      Republican money tends to be generally effective. The threat of withholding the same will certainly work to bring them more in line. Also, https://www.axios.com/trump-ginsburg-supreme-court-10bf5f37-bb33-41d6-a647-1143fbdb2d98.html https://www.axios.com/trump-ginsburg-supreme-court-10bf5f37-... .
  - tyingq 6y ago
    Somewhat interesting in this space: "Already, Republican Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine have said that there is not enough time to confirm someone before November. Collins told The New York Times earlier this month that she'd oppose seating a nominee in a lame-duck session if Joe Biden wins the White House."[1] So a fairly razor thin opportunity for McConnell. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/congress-fight-rgb-seat/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/congress-fight-rgb-s...
    - abawany 6y ago
      The thinnest razor delivers the sharpest cuts, apparently: https://www.axios.com/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-pick-840e1fbf-1ee0-497a-b22e-1791e8edb32d.html https://www.axios.com/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-pick-8... .
- UncleMeat 6y ago
  Refusing to vote for a Trump appointee would kill their reelection, not the other way around.
  - koolba 6y ago
    That’s a bingo. Any supposed conservative that stands in the way of a conservative majority on the SCOTUS would be run out of town on a rail by their own party’s base.

With the filibuster gone there’s not much Democrats can do to stop it if they can muster 50 votes.

by koolba 6y ago

With the filibuster gone there’s not much Democrats can do to stop it if they can muster 50 votes.

I still feel like that may not be easy. Doesn't take many Republicans (4?) that are skeptical about Trump being re-elected, and open to tit-for-tat to stall or halt this.

krapp 6y ago
This is the Republicans' opportunity to stack the court overwhelmingly in their favor and guarantee the end of progressive and liberal influence in Constitutional law for a generation. The repeal of everything from the ACA and gay marriage to Roe V. Wade is on the table. They're not going to turn that down just to mess with Trump, this is way bigger than Trump.
- tyingq 6y ago
  That is compelling, but I wouldn't overlook tit-for-tat. Senators live to be re-elected, and there are lots of close races in this exact timeframe. Four "we will take a dive" promises could make a difference.
  - lovehashbrowns 6y ago
    I don't think you understand how all-in the republican party is on trump. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/24/trumps-approval-ratings-so-far-are-unusually-stable-and-deeply-partisan/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/24/trumps-appr... Also see: The most recent RNC.
    - tyingq 6y ago
      "About four-in-ten Americans (38%) approve of Trump’s job performance" I assume that is well below the percentage of Americans that call themselves Republican. Not fully understanding your point. The language in your link seems to confirm it's a serious issue for Trump.
      - lovehashbrowns 6y ago
        That depends entirely on the votes that happen this year. The point is, those republicans aren't going to risk losing almost all their guaranteed votes that come from republican voters.
abawany 6y ago
If you are thinking about Senator Susan "Concerned" Collins and etc., you are pining for fool's gold. They make token noise and then comply.
- tyingq 6y ago
  Are there 4 that are facing an uncertain re-election campaign right now?
  - abawany 6y ago
    Republican money tends to be generally effective. The threat of withholding the same will certainly work to bring them more in line. Also, https://www.axios.com/trump-ginsburg-supreme-court-10bf5f37-bb33-41d6-a647-1143fbdb2d98.html https://www.axios.com/trump-ginsburg-supreme-court-10bf5f37-... .
- tyingq 6y ago
  Somewhat interesting in this space: "Already, Republican Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine have said that there is not enough time to confirm someone before November. Collins told The New York Times earlier this month that she'd oppose seating a nominee in a lame-duck session if Joe Biden wins the White House."[1] So a fairly razor thin opportunity for McConnell. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/congress-fight-rgb-seat/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/congress-fight-rgb-s...
  - abawany 6y ago
    The thinnest razor delivers the sharpest cuts, apparently: https://www.axios.com/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-pick-840e1fbf-1ee0-497a-b22e-1791e8edb32d.html https://www.axios.com/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-pick-8... .
UncleMeat 6y ago
Refusing to vote for a Trump appointee would kill their reelection, not the other way around.
- koolba 6y ago
  That’s a bingo. Any supposed conservative that stands in the way of a conservative majority on the SCOTUS would be run out of town on a rail by their own party’s base.