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https://web.archive.org/web/20061201000220/http://reddit.com/viewlink?id=958 https://web.archive.org/web/20061201000220/http://reddit.com... As Lance Armstrong heads for a record seventh win in the Tour de France, Denis Campbell analyses the physical and emotional strengths that make him great hmmmm 'Genetically Lance is a freak,' says his friend Tony Doyle, the British former pursuit cycling world champion. 'His heart and lungs are bigger than most people's, and most other elite cyclists', so they make him more efficient as an athlete. He also generates far less lactic acid than the others, and he recovers quicker - vital in a race where you push yourself to the limit day after day after day.' hmmmm

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p1esk 6y ago
Pretty sure that's 100% accurate, what's with 'hmmm'? Or perhaps you think he used more drugs than others?
- W-Stool 6y ago
  He always claimed - always - that he never used performance enhancing drugs or blood processes (doping). Which of course he did.
  - ajhurliman 6y ago
    Do you think the other cyclists are not?
    - dmm 6y ago
      If you have a sport where the honest cannot compete it's no surprise to discover it's full of cheaters.
      - dfischer 6y ago
        Exactly - you’re compelled to cheat and have to find out how to get away with it since you _know_ others are doing it. It’s a huge issue. Very interesting psychology. Joe Rogan has a few episodes on it but I can’t remember who he interviewed. I think there’s a documentary related to this, perhaps Icarus if I recall correctly.
- codeulike 6y ago
  If everyone is cheating and everyone knows it and no-one says anything then the whole thing stinks, and I don't want to read fawning articles telling me what amazing physical and emotional strengths all the competitors have. Conspiratorial cheating is not an emotional strength.
  - p1esk 6y ago
    Lance Armstrong was a great athlete, period. It's unfortunate he had to use drugs but he had no choice. It was a price to pay to compete at the highest level.
    - codeulike 6y ago
      he had no choice. It was a price to pay to compete at the highest level. He would have been a much much better athlete if he took no drugs and finished 20th
      - p1esk 6y ago
        When you work as hard as he did you don’t want to finish 20th.
        codeulike 6y ago
        Well thats not a very sporting attitude
        readarticle 6y ago
        “Winning isn’t everything it’s the only thing, whoever said winning isn’t everything never won anything.” etc It might be cultural, but that attitude strikes me as the very heart of sport in all honesty.
        codeulike 6y ago
        You need to define 'Sport' and also 'cheating'. You have a definition for the former but apparently not for the latter. e.g. if one of Lance's competitors on the Tour had (lets imagine) added some magically small but powerful electric motor to his bike and used that to win, would that be fair game?

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p1esk 6y ago

Pretty sure that's 100% accurate, what's with 'hmmm'? Or perhaps you think he used more drugs than others?

W-Stool 6y ago
He always claimed - always - that he never used performance enhancing drugs or blood processes (doping). Which of course he did.
- ajhurliman 6y ago
  Do you think the other cyclists are not?
  - dmm 6y ago
    If you have a sport where the honest cannot compete it's no surprise to discover it's full of cheaters.
    - dfischer 6y ago
      Exactly - you’re compelled to cheat and have to find out how to get away with it since you _know_ others are doing it. It’s a huge issue. Very interesting psychology. Joe Rogan has a few episodes on it but I can’t remember who he interviewed. I think there’s a documentary related to this, perhaps Icarus if I recall correctly.
codeulike 6y ago
If everyone is cheating and everyone knows it and no-one says anything then the whole thing stinks, and I don't want to read fawning articles telling me what amazing physical and emotional strengths all the competitors have. Conspiratorial cheating is not an emotional strength.
- p1esk 6y ago
  Lance Armstrong was a great athlete, period. It's unfortunate he had to use drugs but he had no choice. It was a price to pay to compete at the highest level.
  - codeulike 6y ago
    he had no choice. It was a price to pay to compete at the highest level. He would have been a much much better athlete if he took no drugs and finished 20th
    - p1esk 6y ago
      When you work as hard as he did you don’t want to finish 20th.
      - codeulike 6y ago
        Well thats not a very sporting attitude
        readarticle 6y ago
        “Winning isn’t everything it’s the only thing, whoever said winning isn’t everything never won anything.” etc It might be cultural, but that attitude strikes me as the very heart of sport in all honesty.
        codeulike 6y ago
        You need to define 'Sport' and also 'cheating'. You have a definition for the former but apparently not for the latter. e.g. if one of Lance's competitors on the Tour had (lets imagine) added some magically small but powerful electric motor to his bike and used that to win, would that be fair game?