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Its interesting how DonnyT ran his 2016 campaign on trade with China, and now by virtue of opening his mouth, more people than ever are aware of certain questio

Its interesting how DonnyT ran his 2016 campaign on trade with China, and now by virtue of opening his mouth, more people than ever are aware of certain questionable actions taken by semi-nationalized Chinese companies. I'm not sure thats a bad thing, all things considered.

MangoCoffee 6y ago
i think someone in his administration understand China better than all the previous. American have this belief that if you bring China into WTO. the open trade with China and free flow of commerce should transform China into a democracy. after 40 yrs, we see none of that. 8 yrs of Obama/Biden soft on anything China to the point of appeasement. (Chinese expansion on South China sea) Chinese CCP have only grow stronger and Xi have consolidated all powers into himself. Xi is more powerful than Mao. what we are seeing from Trump admin is 1. seperate Chinese people from CCP. i think that hit hard to the point that Xi have to come out and said CCP is UN-separable from Chinese people. 2. trying out how to use National security to hit Chinese companies like what we are seeing right now and with Huawei. it will be interesting to watch geopolitics in coming years if Trump win re-election. if Biden win, then it just back to Obama's era policies.
- tmpz22 6y ago
  You make a very weak argument that Obama’s administration was soft on China. Your only point is strategy in the South China Sea and unless you’re privy to US Navy posturing and what our coordination with Japanese naval forces was at that time, you can’t definitively say that it is any different now.
  - redis_mlc 6y ago
    > You make a very weak argument that Obama’s administration was soft on China. This is common knowledge. Look up "Scarborough Shoal", and Obama's inaction which resulted in China's takeover of the 9-dash line area. The result of Obama's lack of deterrence is that the entire Asian region is arming for war now, which was entirely avoidable by sending a US carrier group there in a timely manner and just sailing in a circle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarborough_Shoal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarborough_Shoal As an aside, HN is around 3 months behind on news about China. You can get updated by watching some Youtube videos from the NTD family of channels. Virtually everything posted on HN is simply nonsense this quarter.
- NicoJuicy 6y ago
  The methods are different, but Obama's attempt for a power block outside China was smarter, ofc the current administration threw that overboard. Now it's just US vs. China instead of the world "vs" China. The current attempt may be way more visible, but I wouldn't say better. Since China is still expanding and the US ( under Trump) stands alone.

MangoCoffee 6y ago

i think someone in his administration understand China better than all the previous. American have this belief that if you bring China into WTO. the open trade with China and free flow of commerce should transform China into a democracy. after 40 yrs, we see none of that. 8 yrs of Obama/Biden soft on anything China to the point of appeasement. (Chinese expansion on South China sea) Chinese CCP have only grow stronger and Xi have consolidated all powers into himself. Xi is more powerful than Mao. what we are seeing from Trump admin is 1. seperate Chinese people from CCP. i think that hit hard to the point that Xi have to come out and said CCP is UN-separable from Chinese people. 2. trying out how to use National security to hit Chinese companies like what we are seeing right now and with Huawei. it will be interesting to watch geopolitics in coming years if Trump win re-election. if Biden win, then it just back to Obama's era policies.

tmpz22 6y ago
You make a very weak argument that Obama’s administration was soft on China. Your only point is strategy in the South China Sea and unless you’re privy to US Navy posturing and what our coordination with Japanese naval forces was at that time, you can’t definitively say that it is any different now.
- redis_mlc 6y ago
  > You make a very weak argument that Obama’s administration was soft on China. This is common knowledge. Look up "Scarborough Shoal", and Obama's inaction which resulted in China's takeover of the 9-dash line area. The result of Obama's lack of deterrence is that the entire Asian region is arming for war now, which was entirely avoidable by sending a US carrier group there in a timely manner and just sailing in a circle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarborough_Shoal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarborough_Shoal As an aside, HN is around 3 months behind on news about China. You can get updated by watching some Youtube videos from the NTD family of channels. Virtually everything posted on HN is simply nonsense this quarter.
NicoJuicy 6y ago
The methods are different, but Obama's attempt for a power block outside China was smarter, ofc the current administration threw that overboard. Now it's just US vs. China instead of the world "vs" China. The current attempt may be way more visible, but I wouldn't say better. Since China is still expanding and the US ( under Trump) stands alone.