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IMO a gas tax rate that is on par with the rest of the developed world would be the most sane way to combat this. Gas taxes in the US and Canada are dismal comp

IMO a gas tax rate that is on par with the rest of the developed world would be the most sane way to combat this. Gas taxes in the US and Canada are dismal compared to many other countries (https://afdc.energy.gov/data/widgets/10327 https://afdc.energy.gov/data/widgets/10327). And of course more investment in pedestrian/biking infrastructure and more walkable city planning.

jeffrallen 6y ago
Car registration cost is proportional to (internal combustion) horsepower in Switzerland, which is helpful in punishing buyers if heavy vehicles. Electric cars in Canton Vaud can be registered for a flat rate of $25, whereas cars are $700 a year and bigger vehicles (SUV, 7 place minivan) are $1200. Eventually the transition to electric will require that we apply proportionality to electric too.
Gibbon1 6y ago
I'm all for putting an excise tax on new on gasoline cars. Make the owner of a new gasoline powered car pay their carbon tax up front. In this case you don't care about the money you want people to stop buying gasoline power cars. You can then that money to buy back older cars and take them off the road.
dzhiurgis 6y ago
Problem is they are convienient in cities. Make your cities unusable for the size and it's problem solved. Just make your streets more narrow. Removing parking is a dick move. Taxing is pointless. For people with special needs - subsidise specialised Uber. For the very few tradies who actually need to lug cargo narrower street is minor inconvenience.
timbo1642 6y ago
That's absurd and stupid. Just add a one time tax rather than screw everyone, especially the poor with a higher gas tax. The gas tax has a purpose and of course isn't be used very well for the purpose of repairing roads, especially in places like California. People like you want to make it impossibly for old, busy, old people, and disabled to get around with your dumb idea of getting cars off the road. A whole bike lane that in some cases takes an entire lane is used for a 50 bikes (that are almost all used for pleasure and not transportation) where 100,000 cars could have driven through that lane and there would be less traffic and pollution. At least use common sense

jeffrallen 6y ago

Car registration cost is proportional to (internal combustion) horsepower in Switzerland, which is helpful in punishing buyers if heavy vehicles. Electric cars in Canton Vaud can be registered for a flat rate of $25, whereas cars are $700 a year and bigger vehicles (SUV, 7 place minivan) are $1200. Eventually the transition to electric will require that we apply proportionality to electric too.

Gibbon1 6y ago

I'm all for putting an excise tax on new on gasoline cars. Make the owner of a new gasoline powered car pay their carbon tax up front. In this case you don't care about the money you want people to stop buying gasoline power cars. You can then that money to buy back older cars and take them off the road.

dzhiurgis 6y ago

Problem is they are convienient in cities. Make your cities unusable for the size and it's problem solved. Just make your streets more narrow. Removing parking is a dick move. Taxing is pointless. For people with special needs - subsidise specialised Uber. For the very few tradies who actually need to lug cargo narrower street is minor inconvenience.

timbo1642 6y ago

That's absurd and stupid. Just add a one time tax rather than screw everyone, especially the poor with a higher gas tax. The gas tax has a purpose and of course isn't be used very well for the purpose of repairing roads, especially in places like California. People like you want to make it impossibly for old, busy, old people, and disabled to get around with your dumb idea of getting cars off the road. A whole bike lane that in some cases takes an entire lane is used for a 50 bikes (that are almost all used for pleasure and not transportation) where 100,000 cars could have driven through that lane and there would be less traffic and pollution. At least use common sense