You're inferring a request that isn't there though, I'm not saying Apple should send any emails without asking I'm saying Apple should not force anyone to impl

You're inferring a request that isn't there though, I'm not saying Apple should send any emails without asking I'm saying Apple should not force anyone to implement it. Some apps just work even if users lose accounts easily. They tend to not push for logins immediately. Sign-in with Apple is a great match for them. But in others, if the user doesn't want to share their email, the dev wants that to be treated as "the user isn't logged in", "I haven't justified logging in". The dev wants to demonstrate enough value to justify you being logged in with an email. Sign-in with Apple is a terrible match for them creates a limbo state where users have accounts, but not full accounts. In those apps it's very awkward to handle in not just the app itself, but real world customer lifecycle events, like support - Not to mention other logins (and OAuth in general) already handle this, you ask permission to access email with an "email" scope and the user is clearly made aware they're sharing their email address And I mean it, the UX is not some shady misleading thing, it's in the best interests of Google and Facebook that your email doesn't become spam either.