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Look at it from a different angle of giving data to China gives them more power and reduces the power of the US. It may not matter a ton in your lifetime, but m

Look at it from a different angle of giving data to China gives them more power and reduces the power of the US. It may not matter a ton in your lifetime, but maybe your kids will see China as the world superpower, imposing its value system onto the world. I'd prefer the US remain the top dog because while not perfect, I like the value system of the US more than I do China.

marnett 6y ago
Do you currently believe that the US remains the uncontested "top dog" currently in 2020?
- prichino 6y ago
  Of course, militarily, economically, politically. China is having some of their worst years in decades. The US is doing great, just look around you
  - namelosw 6y ago
    Have you been to both of the countries this year? It's exactly the opposite, at least for 2020.
ixtli 6y ago
Eh. There’s a long list of moral bankruptcy even before trump. We operate literal concentration camps for children here and I don’t see these breathless articles in the international press about that.
- reaperducer 6y ago
  We operate literal concentration camps for children here Holocaust survivors would find your hyperbole disgusting.
  - shadowgovt 6y ago
    Some actual holocaust survivors do. (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-holocaust-survivors-respond-to-aocs-concentration-camp-comments https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-holocaust-survivors-res...) Some actual holocaust survivors do not, and consider it similar to their lived experience, not hyperbole. (https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/19/a-dallas-holocaust-survivor-sees-his-reflection-in-the-faces-of-children-separated-from-their-parents/ https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/19/a-d..., https://www.thedailybeast.com/holocaust-survivor-yes-the-border-detention-centers-are-like-concentration-camps https://www.thedailybeast.com/holocaust-survivor-yes-the-bor...) This is a point of record; no need to hypothesize.
    - ixtli 6y ago
      Wait you’re saying Jews aren’t a monolith?
  - ixtli 6y ago
    I’m a Jew raised by Holocaust survivors. Why do I have a feeling you’re not really acquainted with anyone from that demographic?
shadowgovt 6y ago
China's already a world superpower imposing its value system onto the world. You beat that by having a better value system, and in theory, The value system in the United States is one of freedom of speech and association. If the government has to tell Americans that they can't use a particular messaging system, it's going against that value system. Does one's value system win if one compromised it to get there?
free_rms 6y ago
Maybe we should look into things like being able to manufacture frickin masks 8 months into a pandemic, then we can double back and worry about kneecapping rivals.

marnett 6y ago

Do you currently believe that the US remains the uncontested "top dog" currently in 2020?

prichino 6y ago
Of course, militarily, economically, politically. China is having some of their worst years in decades. The US is doing great, just look around you
- namelosw 6y ago
  Have you been to both of the countries this year? It's exactly the opposite, at least for 2020.

ixtli 6y ago

Eh. There’s a long list of moral bankruptcy even before trump. We operate literal concentration camps for children here and I don’t see these breathless articles in the international press about that.

reaperducer 6y ago
We operate literal concentration camps for children here Holocaust survivors would find your hyperbole disgusting.
- shadowgovt 6y ago
  Some actual holocaust survivors do. (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-holocaust-survivors-respond-to-aocs-concentration-camp-comments https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-holocaust-survivors-res...) Some actual holocaust survivors do not, and consider it similar to their lived experience, not hyperbole. (https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/19/a-dallas-holocaust-survivor-sees-his-reflection-in-the-faces-of-children-separated-from-their-parents/ https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/19/a-d..., https://www.thedailybeast.com/holocaust-survivor-yes-the-border-detention-centers-are-like-concentration-camps https://www.thedailybeast.com/holocaust-survivor-yes-the-bor...) This is a point of record; no need to hypothesize.
  - ixtli 6y ago
    Wait you’re saying Jews aren’t a monolith?
- ixtli 6y ago
  I’m a Jew raised by Holocaust survivors. Why do I have a feeling you’re not really acquainted with anyone from that demographic?

shadowgovt 6y ago

China's already a world superpower imposing its value system onto the world. You beat that by having a better value system, and in theory, The value system in the United States is one of freedom of speech and association. If the government has to tell Americans that they can't use a particular messaging system, it's going against that value system. Does one's value system win if one compromised it to get there?

free_rms 6y ago

Maybe we should look into things like being able to manufacture frickin masks 8 months into a pandemic, then we can double back and worry about kneecapping rivals.