You're talking about two different sets of people, neither of whom intersect with the (empty) set referenced above. Of course it's a mistake to believe a presid

You're talking about two different sets of people, neither of whom intersect with the (empty) set referenced above. Of course it's a mistake to believe a presidential candidate who promises peace. In my lifetime, maybe Carter (if one squints hard enough to obscure Iran) and maybe Clinton (if one squints hard enough to obscure Africa) kept that promise. The "lib-owners" couldn't care less about that issue. The idea that Pence would rein in either partisan nastiness or stupid wars, if he even could, is still risible.