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Most comments seem to revolve around if the source of the leaked emails was Russia but does it really matter? Wether or not it emanated from Russia does not cha

Most comments seem to revolve around if the source of the leaked emails was Russia but does it really matter? Wether or not it emanated from Russia does not change that the emails were genuine. It is maybe a catastrophy if Trump got elected because of it but it is nevertheless great that those became public. We can only hope that Trump being the steaming pile of sh* he is, we will learn about it in the same manner. Such as that Reuters piece of news for example. I can only understand how sorry many of you gringos must be for having Trump as president but blaming Russia won't solve any of your problems. A more democratic voting system and more transparency maybe will. Democrats are not crazy as Trump but they don't seem like a solution, sorry.

mhh__ 6y ago
The real lesson of this presidency (Which I sincerely hope will end soon), is really how fragile democracy as a concept rather than a moral for the political parties. Although I assumed they've discussed it, it is at least unlikely that he can fiddle with the election and refuse to leave (Roger Stone suggests declaring martial law) - the checks and balances in place are far too dependent on good faith from those they are overseeing. Flynn was charged with perjury and now what? We saw it with the Brexit campaign and now with Boris Johnson over here, it turns out that if you spew as much dishonesty, jingoistic bile, and corruption as possible you can win an election. Think about the debates in 2016, where do you even start when arguing against "No puppet, No puppet, you're the puppet, no puppet" constitutes a debate.
hackinthebochs 6y ago
One sided "transparency" for the purpose of manipulating an election is an affront to democracy.
- cassepipe 6y ago
  And democracy is generally a buzzword if one does not explain what in his/her opinion it covers. Are Democrats democratic ? Is the Us voting system democratic ? You can sense that if you frame the question like that you will have an endless debate that won't get you anywhere. What voting system is in place ? Are parties limited in the money they can get for their campaign ? Is there a independent institution that controls the voting process ? Etc. Maybe the problem with Trump is not that he is a agent of Russia but the fact that he is an infantile billionaire with the worst industries such as oil and coal behind him. But I don't expect democrats to utter that critique since they are probably not clean either. Here is an idea instead, companies or rich individuals should not be allowed to contribute to a campaign more than a certain amount.

mhh__ 6y ago

The real lesson of this presidency (Which I sincerely hope will end soon), is really how fragile democracy as a concept rather than a moral for the political parties. Although I assumed they've discussed it, it is at least unlikely that he can fiddle with the election and refuse to leave (Roger Stone suggests declaring martial law) - the checks and balances in place are far too dependent on good faith from those they are overseeing. Flynn was charged with perjury and now what? We saw it with the Brexit campaign and now with Boris Johnson over here, it turns out that if you spew as much dishonesty, jingoistic bile, and corruption as possible you can win an election. Think about the debates in 2016, where do you even start when arguing against "No puppet, No puppet, you're the puppet, no puppet" constitutes a debate.

hackinthebochs 6y ago

One sided "transparency" for the purpose of manipulating an election is an affront to democracy.

cassepipe 6y ago
And democracy is generally a buzzword if one does not explain what in his/her opinion it covers. Are Democrats democratic ? Is the Us voting system democratic ? You can sense that if you frame the question like that you will have an endless debate that won't get you anywhere. What voting system is in place ? Are parties limited in the money they can get for their campaign ? Is there a independent institution that controls the voting process ? Etc. Maybe the problem with Trump is not that he is a agent of Russia but the fact that he is an infantile billionaire with the worst industries such as oil and coal behind him. But I don't expect democrats to utter that critique since they are probably not clean either. Here is an idea instead, companies or rich individuals should not be allowed to contribute to a campaign more than a certain amount.