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From someone who ditched macos two weeks ago: macos just doesn't feed good anymore. Ignoring things like their horribly outdated window-management (what the hel

• ubermonkey 6y ago
  This sounds like you just don't know, or didn't know, how MacOS differs from Windows, and that you're confusing your ignorance for a decline. "the mess that are locked down and all-over-the-place plist-files (good luck with those!)" I have utterly no idea what you're on about here. .plist files are preference files, and they're overwhelmingly contained within either ~/Library or /Library. And they are not ever "locked down," at least not in my experience. "When I first got a macbook at work four years ago, I couldn't even figure out how to install software" See prior note. That you think you need an installer to install software is you mistaking Windows methods for methods universal to computing. "when I'm writing code, I'm writing for linux-machines." Many folks do x-platform dev on Macs, but you certainly DO need to take steps to accurately model your target environment before doing so. It sounds like you'd be happier on a Linux machine, but that isn't an example of failure or decline from Apple. Your tie-in on vscode and your WSL sounds like a good feature for you. But this, too, isn't an example of "decline" for MacOS. "The platform that is windows 10 feels so much more powerful and up-to-date than macos, it's not even a fair comparison." This is a truly weird statement. I use both systems side by side, and have for 25 years. Windows is a fragile house of cards if you frequently add and remove software. C:\Windows inexorably expands, and the only fix is to wipe and reinstall from scratch. You know what I've literally NEVER had to do on a Mac? Wipe and reinstall from scratch. "But the sentiment I'm used to from my company is that "windows is completely unusable garbage, and apples computers are perfect"" As with most binary reductions of real-world situations, I agree that this is not a great statement. But Windows as a system still doesn't strike me as something I'd want to depend on in any meaningful way. I run VMs (on my Mac, and on the Dell), and I have a fairly minimal environment my own loaded XPS 15, because that way I can get the whole setup running again with minimal effort when Windows shits the bed, as it very very often does.
  • hans1729 6y ago
    >[...] you're confusing your ignorance for a decline Fair enough. That point hits home with regard to the installer-situation, however what I tried to illustrate with that sentence is that macos is far from the state of borderline-perfection that is often attributed to it. You're also correct on stability: I wouldn't run Windows on anything that my life depends on. As should nobody. However, serverlike stability simply isn't the core quality I look for in my OS. Its nice to have, but I can tolerate some instability as long as other benefits outweigh it. I feel like that's exactly the case now (and I wouldn't have made the same statement, say, three years ago): Windows simply serves me better as a user, the ue is miles ahead of my last year on macos. > "Windows is a fragile house of cards if you frequently add and remove software" well, I don't. I live enirely in the linuxworld, except for Chrome, Vscode and Steam (which should be stable, no? To be fair, I haven't spent the recent years in windows-land, so I might underestimate how close to water windows is built). If that's a minimal environment to you, we're in the same boat. To the point about the plist-files: I've had a few encounters when I tried to modify things to my liking, and the experience was terrible. Maybe my memory serves me wrong with respect to 'all over the place', but in order to edit them, I had to download specific software, which is a big no no, given that we talk about system config files. And by "big no no" I mean user-hostile behaviour. I probably failed to make clear enough how all my points relate to the so-perceived decline: to me it feels like apple just completely stopped caring about ux-related progression, doesn't care about powerusers, doesn't care about linux-devs, doesn't care about how terrible their window-management is (seriously, show me how to toggle through windows of the same application, or how to move a window from one screen to another with your keyboard. It's 2020 and this isn't a thing in macland, and thats just bad and can't be justified imo) - all of which is a shame, because their platform is so much more stable than windows is, and because their integration with other apple-devices is simply unmatched in any other product line. On top of that, to get my macos working the way I wanted it to, I ineeded what, four extra applications? By the time I migrated to windows, I had about 10 extra icons in that bar. Things like caffeine, that should have been implemented as system-settings about ten years ago, but weren't. Macos is full of these little issues, and at least to me it felt like its a dead-end product. Like, great, they're gonna get a touchscreen-implementation, but that's not what I missed as a user. If I'd need to bet my life on the stability of a computer, I'd take a macbook - any macbook. But I'm not in the business of betting lifes on laptop-stability, and for my consulting-job + playing games after work without a reboot, the choice seems pretty damn clear to me. I wasn't too confident before I actually made the jump, but I haven't looked back since