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MOST concerning is the fact that WeChat will be banned. To many Asian demographics, that's a mainstream chat application for keeping in touch with family.
by threatofrain 6y ago
MOST concerning is the fact that WeChat will be banned. To many Asian demographics, that's a mainstream chat application for keeping in touch with family.
- tomasreimers 6y agoNo family in China, but some friends there. Do you know of any good replacements for contacting friends & family there? The google suite is banned, FB is off the table, WhatsApp works sometimes (I imagine strained relationships between FB / China), Skype is alright, although pretty laggy. The ones I've found reliable are: - Zoom - Facetime (I imagine this benefits from Apple's relationship wit the Chinese govt) - WeChat (soon deprecated)
- lisnake 6y agoTelegram maybe? Not sure if it works in China though.
- zkid18 6y agoAlso blocked in China
- devit 6y agoE-mail? (PGP encrypted and signed if needed) WebRTC-based software? (e.g. Jitsi Meet, https://meet.jit.si https://meet.jit.si)
- irjustin 6y agoWe use Zoom - that's about the only thing left these days that works reliably other than a self hosted VPN tunnel.
- 1915cb1f 6y agoMy parents, who work in both China and the U.S., use telegram
- f1refly 6y agoHow about xmpp?
- jhart99 6y agoZoom works fine. Teams was working as of a week ago.
- nl 6y agoI agree, except apparently the ban isn't actually a ban on using it[1]. (I say apparently because it seems to change by the house) I honestly don't think anyone knows what the policy actually is. The administration cares more about soundbites than policy, but the people who need to administer it don't really seem to know what to do. It would be funny if it wasn't so terribly sad. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/09/impending-wechat-ban-wont-actually-ban-users-from-wechat-doj-says/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/09/impending-wechat...
- kburman 6y ago> To many Asian demographics, that's a mainstream chat application for keeping in touch with family. Really? Whatsapp is mainstream app not the wechat.
- cwxm 6y agoI think it depends on which countries specifically in Asia, and which demographic group within those countries. As far as I know, as part of it, it's definitely dominant in the Chinese Diaspora.
- derwiki 6y agoWeChat is mainstream in China, so that means what, roughly 500m users?
- sudosysgen 6y agoMore like around a billion. Actually, just checking now, 1.2 billion users.
- zpeti 6y agoI think this is partly the purpose. The US administration does actually want to cut off communication between China and chinese in the US. It's a feature of this legislation, not a bug.
- nickles 6y agoThis is an executive order, not legislation.
- 082349872349872 6y agoTIL about tiktok.com, and it (at least for me) serves up a very linguistically diverse bunch of defaults. Maybe Oracle should promise to screw down the filter bubbles tighter? One would think that instead of cutting channels, the US would prefer to expand them, so that china residents would not only be theoretically aware of the greater nominal US GDP, but also could practically see for themselves all the material advantages[1] that freedom brings. Goldstein: "... the Party member, like the proletarian, tolerates present-day conditions partly because he has no standards of comparison." [1] not to mention that there is always a wider story than necessarily that shown by their international coverage. For instance, a quick search for (pardon my machine translation) "美国国际新闻" on youku got me https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDcwNTI3OTk4NA==.html https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDcwNTI3OTk4NA==.html which is obviously not representative of the US as a whole.
- sushid 6y agoIf by “Asian,” you mean “Chinese,” yes you’re correct.