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Let’s assume for a moment the story turns out to be true: would people stop using Instagram because of it?looking at the history of privacy violations and the m

by emsy 6y ago

Let’s assume for a moment the story turns out to be true: would people stop using Instagram because of it?looking at the history of privacy violations and the market’s responds to it I doubt it. There is a minority of users who will feel rightfully violated in their privacy (imagine browsing instagram naked while possibly being ogled at by some creep at FB). The worst that will happen is that FB will be sanctioned to pay a laughably low fine. I think we need much harsher repercussions against these practices, up to barring them completely from operating.

bogwog 6y ago
People still smoke even though everyone knows it's bad for you. Maybe like smoking we need a minimum age for social media that's actually enforced and heavily penalized?
devit 6y ago
A lot of people would probably deny camera permissions to Instagram (and upload by sharing from gallery if they upload content), and their reputation would take a significant hit (currently they aren't known to covertly gather any personal data beyond generic OS-provided statistics). Also Instagram isn't really essential to communicate and learn about events in the way the main Facebook service is, so stopping to use it is highly feasible.
- robbintt 6y ago
  Agreed. I just checked my setting and apparently did this "deny and post from camera roll" by default. I have no doubt I was just making a privacy conscious choice.
- kennywinker 6y ago
  You can’t post instagram stories without giving both camera and microphone access. This is a significant leverage point for a lot of people.
reaperducer 6y ago
would people stop using Instagram because of it? Any responsible parent would make sure their young children didn't use it. There is a minority of users who will feel rightfully violated in their privacy So? Because they're in the minority their voices don't matter? The worst that will happen is that FB will be sanctioned to pay a laughably low fine. Sadly, you're spot-on with this one.
hkai 6y ago
You are talking about repercussions, yet clearly there is no proof that Instagram was "spying" on anyone.
- not_really 6y ago
  Blame has been placed on a bug, meaning you can safely assume there is irrefutable proof of camera access. (Why else would the claim of a bug need to be made?) Spying or not, it's completely unacceptable.
heimatau 6y ago
> would people stop using Instagram because of it? Honestly, what other people do with their data/privacy concerns doesn't affect my life. So, if they are cool with that, that's on them. For me (my family), we are fairly anti-technology at the home. 'Anti' in the respect that we actually enjoy the simple life and retirement for us is on a farm, off the grid. So, this behavior, for me, is the last straw. I will be removing IG within the next 12 months. (I won't get a FB,Whatsapp, etc)
switch11 6y ago
Yes, actually people would Many of the people who use Instagram are ones who stopped using Facebook due to privacy issues and their grandpa and grandma showing up They didn't know Facebook owns Instagram Facebook is stuck in this loop where it has to keep buying competitors because its own users lose faith and leave If Instagram didn't sell to Facebook, Facebook would be screwed Currently, FB has Instagram, Whatsapp and Messenger By some special deal with the Government they are trying to nuke TikTok If that doesn't work they are in trouble Many of the newer companies that are growing won't sell to FB (Tik Tok, Snapchat, Telegram, etc)
paxys 6y ago
Of course people would stop using Instagram. A major app provably spying on you from your camera is an extremely big deal, and is something every non-tech user can easily understand. The truth is though that as in ~100% of such sensationalist headlines there is nothing alarming in what the app is doing, which is why users don't care.

by emsy 6y ago

bogwog 6y ago

People still smoke even though everyone knows it's bad for you. Maybe like smoking we need a minimum age for social media that's actually enforced and heavily penalized?

devit 6y ago

A lot of people would probably deny camera permissions to Instagram (and upload by sharing from gallery if they upload content), and their reputation would take a significant hit (currently they aren't known to covertly gather any personal data beyond generic OS-provided statistics). Also Instagram isn't really essential to communicate and learn about events in the way the main Facebook service is, so stopping to use it is highly feasible.

robbintt 6y ago
Agreed. I just checked my setting and apparently did this "deny and post from camera roll" by default. I have no doubt I was just making a privacy conscious choice.
kennywinker 6y ago
You can’t post instagram stories without giving both camera and microphone access. This is a significant leverage point for a lot of people.

reaperducer 6y ago

would people stop using Instagram because of it? Any responsible parent would make sure their young children didn't use it. There is a minority of users who will feel rightfully violated in their privacy So? Because they're in the minority their voices don't matter? The worst that will happen is that FB will be sanctioned to pay a laughably low fine. Sadly, you're spot-on with this one.

hkai 6y ago

You are talking about repercussions, yet clearly there is no proof that Instagram was "spying" on anyone.

not_really 6y ago
Blame has been placed on a bug, meaning you can safely assume there is irrefutable proof of camera access. (Why else would the claim of a bug need to be made?) Spying or not, it's completely unacceptable.

heimatau 6y ago

> would people stop using Instagram because of it? Honestly, what other people do with their data/privacy concerns doesn't affect my life. So, if they are cool with that, that's on them. For me (my family), we are fairly anti-technology at the home. 'Anti' in the respect that we actually enjoy the simple life and retirement for us is on a farm, off the grid. So, this behavior, for me, is the last straw. I will be removing IG within the next 12 months. (I won't get a FB,Whatsapp, etc)

switch11 6y ago

Yes, actually people would Many of the people who use Instagram are ones who stopped using Facebook due to privacy issues and their grandpa and grandma showing up They didn't know Facebook owns Instagram Facebook is stuck in this loop where it has to keep buying competitors because its own users lose faith and leave If Instagram didn't sell to Facebook, Facebook would be screwed Currently, FB has Instagram, Whatsapp and Messenger By some special deal with the Government they are trying to nuke TikTok If that doesn't work they are in trouble Many of the newer companies that are growing won't sell to FB (Tik Tok, Snapchat, Telegram, etc)

paxys 6y ago

Of course people would stop using Instagram. A major app provably spying on you from your camera is an extremely big deal, and is something every non-tech user can easily understand. The truth is though that as in ~100% of such sensationalist headlines there is nothing alarming in what the app is doing, which is why users don't care.