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The real issue here is the seizure of domain names. US citizens who gamble online know full well that they're breaking the law and are subject to lose assets.
by davidcann 16y ago
The real issue here is the seizure of domain names. US citizens who gamble online know full well that they're breaking the law and are subject to lose assets.
The domain seizures are very troubling, though.
Edit: There seems to be some dispute over where it's a crime to "participate" in different US states, but for the purposes of the "customer assests seized", the transaction is illegal, so it's to be expected that the "cash is locked up" as the result of government action.
- slay2k 16y agoUm, no, US citizens don't know that. If they did, smart professional players like Durrr and Ivey wouldn't keep multi-million dollar bankrolls online that are subject to loss at any time. That's just common sense.
- bjonathan 16y agothey are red pro , they will be fine, the real risk is for middle/high stakes grinders who dont have the same relationship with the big sites and as OP said risk to have their money freeze for some time (a US player is already reporting on 2+2 that he cant withdraw his money from FT)
- albedoa 16y agoUm, what? Can you cite the law they "know" to be breaking?
- generalk 16y agoYou do understand that gambling online isn't illegal in the United States, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIGEA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIGEA UIGEA "prohibits gambling businesses from knowingly accepting payments in connection with the participation of another person in a bet or wager that involves the use of the Internet and that is unlawful under any federal or state law." but does not make it a crime for a citizen to engage in the activity.
- elliottcarlson 16y agoCorrection - it is illegal for them to participate in the activity of gambling - it is not illegal for them to participate in the activity of playing poker, for fun.
- eof 16y agoIt is illegal in a handful of states. http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Law-Summary/ http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Law-Summary/ You are right though, the UIGEA makes it illegal to transfer money from a US citizens account to an 'illegal gambling operation.' It doesn't actually define what an illegal gambling operation is.
- icey 16y agoExcept for horse racing.
- ikono 16y agoI think technically gambling online is illegal in the US but it's covered by the wire act and not UIGEA. I'm not 100% sure as it's been a while since I've kept up with this but I believe that Poker has always been in a sort of gray area. I think there is suppose to be a distinction between games of chance and games of skill. In the past only online sports books or true online casinos had ever been prosecuted in the US.
- kragen 16y agoAre you saying that even US citizens who live outside the US are breaking US law if they gamble online?