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I also don't understand this, my father died last month because of the same reason. He had an aortic dissection and in those cases time is critical (especially
by gommm 6y ago
I also don't understand this, my father died last month because of the same reason. He had an aortic dissection and in those cases time is critical (especially given that he was under anti coagulant). But they took 12 hours before they finally started treating him and claim a computer failure is the reason for that. By the time they started treating him, it was too late.
I don't understand the sheer incompetence involved. He had his prescriptions with him, he was lucid enough in the first 10 hours (my mother couldn't be in the emergency with him due to covid regulation but he communicated with her by phone) to explain his medical history. They had all the elements to actually do something but they didn't because "our computer systems were not working"
Hospitals should be able to run without computer systems and the budget for maintaining those same systems should be high enough to ensure things work. I can't fathom that it's not the case and I would never have expected something like this to happen. It's hard dealing both with the death of a close family member and the anger at the incompetence displayed by the French hospital system.
- zimpenfish 6y ago> Hospitals should be able to run without computer systems I suspect that they can -but- they're probably concerned about legal issues - if everything isn't logged in or authorised by the system and something goes wrong, someone (and I by no means mean to imply you here!) at some point will launch a legal claim over that mistake. [Edit: Which is also not mean to defend the hospitals for taking this position - I think it's daft but I can understand there may be reasons for it.]
- gommm 6y agoWell in this case, they only told us about the computer issue as a justification after the fact, they never told my father when he was in the emergency. If my father had been redirected to another hospital instead of being left there to wait for hours until his situation became critical, I would have been happier with them..
- userbinator 6y agoI suspect that they can -but- they're probably concerned about legal issues Then the law should have a "best effort" provision. I believe aviation regulations have a similar thing, where the pilot doing anything possible in a best-effort attempt to survive or minimise casualties, including violating other regulations, is itself explicitly permitted.
- zimpenfish 6y ago> Then the law should have a "best effort" provision. Yep, I'd probably agree with that.
- srtjstjsj 6y agoOK but killing a patient by refusing treatment is also a legal risk.
- zimpenfish 6y ago> OK but killing a patient by refusing treatment is also a legal risk. Sure but I think a lot of people would not see "we're not sure it's safe to do the surgery, let's wait" as "killing a patient" especially when you're probably going to find it hard to find anyone who'll say it was safe to do at the time.