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Eh, why waste time on that when major polluters are oil, meat, packaged fast food etc. Look up Saudi Aramco, Chevron, Gasprom, Exxon, Coca Cola, Nestle, Bayer,

Eh, why waste time on that when major polluters are oil, meat, packaged fast food etc. Look up Saudi Aramco, Chevron, Gasprom, Exxon, Coca Cola, Nestle, Bayer, JBS, Tyson etc. Many of them are owned by investors. Why can't we punish investors which are very few compared to the number of web developers out there?

names_are_hard 6y ago
Maybe your hands are clean, but I'd wager most of us are customers of the companies in that list and we benefit from their behavior. Why blame the investors and not the customers?
- searchableguy 6y ago
  Most of the consumers have little choice in their consumption. Investors who are putting millions of dollars knowingly into companies that harm the environment are doing it intentionally. There is no comparison here. It's easy to change thousands/hundreds of investors responsible for these companies than billions of consumers. We have tried putting responsibility on consumers and it utterly failed. 90% of plastic isn't recycled. Many companies which promised to take your blue bin and recycle it sent it to China and other Asian countries. Repairability has only gone down.
yoran 6y ago
We all have a role to play in the fight against climate change. It doesn't help pointing the finger at another group of people and say that it's all their fault and that they have to fix it. It's like with taxing the wealthy. Everybody agrees the wealthier part of the population should be taxed more, but no one considers himself wealthy enough to fall in that category.
- searchableguy 6y ago
  > We all have a role to play in the fight against climate change. Yes. That's why I am proposing a real solution compared to relying on billions of people changing their habits which are intentionally forced on them by the environment. > It's like with taxing the wealthy. Everybody agrees the wealthier part of the population should be taxed more, but no one considers himself wealthy enough to fall in that category. Not comparable. Everyone who invests in companies that harm the environment get taxed heavily on their investment to offset the carbon emissions. There is no subjective wealth factor here.

names_are_hard 6y ago

Maybe your hands are clean, but I'd wager most of us are customers of the companies in that list and we benefit from their behavior. Why blame the investors and not the customers?

searchableguy 6y ago
Most of the consumers have little choice in their consumption. Investors who are putting millions of dollars knowingly into companies that harm the environment are doing it intentionally. There is no comparison here. It's easy to change thousands/hundreds of investors responsible for these companies than billions of consumers. We have tried putting responsibility on consumers and it utterly failed. 90% of plastic isn't recycled. Many companies which promised to take your blue bin and recycle it sent it to China and other Asian countries. Repairability has only gone down.

yoran 6y ago

We all have a role to play in the fight against climate change. It doesn't help pointing the finger at another group of people and say that it's all their fault and that they have to fix it. It's like with taxing the wealthy. Everybody agrees the wealthier part of the population should be taxed more, but no one considers himself wealthy enough to fall in that category.

searchableguy 6y ago
> We all have a role to play in the fight against climate change. Yes. That's why I am proposing a real solution compared to relying on billions of people changing their habits which are intentionally forced on them by the environment. > It's like with taxing the wealthy. Everybody agrees the wealthier part of the population should be taxed more, but no one considers himself wealthy enough to fall in that category. Not comparable. Everyone who invests in companies that harm the environment get taxed heavily on their investment to offset the carbon emissions. There is no subjective wealth factor here.