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> But I guess that's not the kind of freedom you are interested in. I do not see a suggestion by anonu that the people they disagree with should be deprived of
by liability 6y ago
> But I guess that's not the kind of freedom you are interested in.
I do not see a suggestion by anonu that the people they disagree with should be deprived of their freedom.
To criticize people for saying something is not the same as saying they shouldn't have the right to say it. That would only be the case if somebody had an absolutely authoritarian mindset. It unnerves me how quick some are to conflate these positions, as though they view the world through an authoritarian lens and assume others must as well.
"People shouldn't say mean things" and "People shouldn't have the right to say mean things" are not equivalent statements unless you are an authoritarian.
- mpalmer 6y agoI'm pretty sure threeseed is pointing out that anonu's comment is selective about the freedoms worthy of defense.
- schwartzworld 6y ago> "People shouldn't say mean things" and "People shouldn't have the right to say mean things" are not equivalent statements unless you are an authoritarian. yup, nothing disingenuous about this analysis.
- liability 6y agoSarcasm? If you disagree with what you quoted, perhaps you could explain why? Simply saying you disagree doesn't really move the conversation forward, does it? It seems quite obvious to me those are not equivalent statements, but if you think I'm wrong I'm willing to listen to why you think that, if you're willing to explain it.
- schwartzworld 6y agoWhat's disingenuous is describing hate speech as "mean things". Have you ever actually heard of someone trying to make "saying mean things" illegal? Can you give an example, even if anecdotal?