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As a long time listener I will go to bat for Joe's show, he is a loving, rational, open person, and he simply does not platform hateful people or not challenge

As a long time listener I will go to bat for Joe's show, he is a loving, rational, open person, and he simply does not platform hateful people or not challenge unjust statements. Some media, political actors, and certain people who don't listen to his show want to spin him as a hate speech alt-righter, especially now on this election year since he platforms Bernie and Tulsi but is against Biden. Find the amount of baseless slander against him disturbing.

jjj123 6y ago
I’ve only listened to a few of Joe’s interviews but I really disagree that he pushes back often at all. He kind of seems like a golden retriever, eager to agree and please and genuinely non judgemental about the majority of his guests’ opinions. It makes for great conversations, and also a great platform for shitty people.
- StillBored 6y ago
  I think he pushes back against a fair number of things. But he treats his guests with respect, and won't push peoples buttons (for example, look at some of the vegan guests/etc). So he frequently lets things slide, and if you listen, you can frequently hear it, just like you can tell when your friends are doing the "sure, lets change the topic now" thing around you to avoid conflict. The veggie thing is probably one of those areas that at some point someone will show up and be like, its possible to body build, live a healthy life without your tst supplements and eating raw deer. And he will end up having a reasoned conversation with them. Maybe, he has a lot of fairly unscientific beliefs around nutrition AFAIK. BTW: Not sure I really agree with either of you, but there are is some very downvote heavy people in this topic, and I've been upvoting a lot of things I think have been unfairly downvoted for expressing fairly reasoned opinions. So have an upvote.. :)
StillBored 6y ago
Yah, people on both sides condemn him because he will have Alex Jones on his show one week and then Bernie the next, two people about as far from each other as possible. He reminds me a bit of Charlie Rose's ability to just talk to people on both sides of the political spectrum. And do it without creating a lot of drama. And like Charlie Rose, he will call people's BS (and let them call his), but then move on before it gets heated. So everyone can find something to hate about him if they try for 1/2 a second, but in reality I think those people are the problem, which is actually one of ongoing central themes he carries, when he talks about how he doesn't read the comments on his episodes/etc anymore. Personally, I believe there is a place for the social shunning (and alex jones might be one of them), but I'm also of the opinion its being wielded for petty/trivial things by people who are only interested in censoring people they don't agree with. This article being one of them. The guy literally has something like 3k+ hours of conversations online, and they find a couple sentences they find challenges their world and they are trying to deplatform him. I'm actually a fairly large supporter of "you can do anything you want in your bedroom" which extends to marrying anyone you please. But I don't really need gay pride flags, and lunch and learns about it at work. The people trying to shout him down are doing more to harm their cause IMHO than JRE ever could.
- koonsolo 6y ago
  On the other hand, tons of people love his podcast for this (including me). To me it really feels like he meets an interesting person at a bar and they have a long interesting conversation. I think we all are tired of journalists that are fishing and pushing their guests. There will always be haters when you are so popular. But don't forget that he remains really popular.

jjj123 6y ago

I’ve only listened to a few of Joe’s interviews but I really disagree that he pushes back often at all. He kind of seems like a golden retriever, eager to agree and please and genuinely non judgemental about the majority of his guests’ opinions. It makes for great conversations, and also a great platform for shitty people.

StillBored 6y ago
I think he pushes back against a fair number of things. But he treats his guests with respect, and won't push peoples buttons (for example, look at some of the vegan guests/etc). So he frequently lets things slide, and if you listen, you can frequently hear it, just like you can tell when your friends are doing the "sure, lets change the topic now" thing around you to avoid conflict. The veggie thing is probably one of those areas that at some point someone will show up and be like, its possible to body build, live a healthy life without your tst supplements and eating raw deer. And he will end up having a reasoned conversation with them. Maybe, he has a lot of fairly unscientific beliefs around nutrition AFAIK. BTW: Not sure I really agree with either of you, but there are is some very downvote heavy people in this topic, and I've been upvoting a lot of things I think have been unfairly downvoted for expressing fairly reasoned opinions. So have an upvote.. :)

StillBored 6y ago

Yah, people on both sides condemn him because he will have Alex Jones on his show one week and then Bernie the next, two people about as far from each other as possible. He reminds me a bit of Charlie Rose's ability to just talk to people on both sides of the political spectrum. And do it without creating a lot of drama. And like Charlie Rose, he will call people's BS (and let them call his), but then move on before it gets heated. So everyone can find something to hate about him if they try for 1/2 a second, but in reality I think those people are the problem, which is actually one of ongoing central themes he carries, when he talks about how he doesn't read the comments on his episodes/etc anymore. Personally, I believe there is a place for the social shunning (and alex jones might be one of them), but I'm also of the opinion its being wielded for petty/trivial things by people who are only interested in censoring people they don't agree with. This article being one of them. The guy literally has something like 3k+ hours of conversations online, and they find a couple sentences they find challenges their world and they are trying to deplatform him. I'm actually a fairly large supporter of "you can do anything you want in your bedroom" which extends to marrying anyone you please. But I don't really need gay pride flags, and lunch and learns about it at work. The people trying to shout him down are doing more to harm their cause IMHO than JRE ever could.

koonsolo 6y ago
On the other hand, tons of people love his podcast for this (including me). To me it really feels like he meets an interesting person at a bar and they have a long interesting conversation. I think we all are tired of journalists that are fishing and pushing their guests. There will always be haters when you are so popular. But don't forget that he remains really popular.