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Eminem never said that trans-women shouldn't be allowed to compete in womens-MMA fighting.

troughway 6y ago
Is that what this is about? Then I guess we can expect the top womans MMA fighters to all be trans. Well done!
Diesel555 6y ago
You can't just pick one thing Joe said, that someone else didn't say, and use that as an argument. That's almost always going to be true. What are the chances Eminem would talk about trans woman MMA fighting? I'd argue very very low. The fact Eminem didn't say this obscure quote doesn't discount the OP pointing out a hypocrisy. I could easily take one of many Eminem quotes (I found a few... but not appropriate to post here) and say "Joe never said that." I'm not taking a stance on one side or another here for the original post, just pointing out a bad argument.
mikece 6y ago
And Joe is an expert in the field of MMA. He didn’t just say that trans women should not be allowed to fight in women’s MMA but cited medical science to back his opinion. Outside of women’s MMA Joe is all for trans rights but in the case of women’s MMA it’s his opinion that a trans woman will end up literally killing someone born with XX chromosomes who still identifies as female (I don’t know of a less clumsy way to say that which is weird).
- DanBC 6y ago
  > (I don’t know of a less clumsy way to say that which is weird). Cis-woman.
jasonv 6y ago
On this issue, Joe has talked at length on the nuances of his position. It’s not strictly an anti- position, and it’s not on identity. Personally, I find his position to be reasonable.
criveros 6y ago
They shouldn't
LegitShady 6y ago
He said much worse.
duxup 6y ago
Is that bad? We have separate men's and women's sports for physical reasons, right or wrong I could understand being concerned about folks crossing those boundaries and gaining an advantage in sport.
s9w 6y ago
"trans-woman" is a made up word for men.

Is that what this is about? Then I guess we can expect the top womans MMA fighters to all be trans. Well done!

You can't just pick one thing Joe said, that someone else didn't say, and use that as an argument. That's almost always going to be true. What are the chances Eminem would talk about trans woman MMA fighting? I'd argue very very low. The fact Eminem didn't say this obscure quote doesn't discount the OP pointing out a hypocrisy. I could easily take one of many Eminem quotes (I found a few... but not appropriate to post here) and say "Joe never said that." I'm not taking a stance on one side or another here for the original post, just pointing out a bad argument.

mikece 6y ago

And Joe is an expert in the field of MMA. He didn’t just say that trans women should not be allowed to fight in women’s MMA but cited medical science to back his opinion. Outside of women’s MMA Joe is all for trans rights but in the case of women’s MMA it’s his opinion that a trans woman will end up literally killing someone born with XX chromosomes who still identifies as female (I don’t know of a less clumsy way to say that which is weird).

DanBC 6y ago
> (I don’t know of a less clumsy way to say that which is weird). Cis-woman.

jasonv 6y ago

On this issue, Joe has talked at length on the nuances of his position. It’s not strictly an anti- position, and it’s not on identity. Personally, I find his position to be reasonable.

criveros 6y ago

They shouldn't

LegitShady 6y ago

He said much worse.

duxup 6y ago

Is that bad? We have separate men's and women's sports for physical reasons, right or wrong I could understand being concerned about folks crossing those boundaries and gaining an advantage in sport.

s9w 6y ago

"trans-woman" is a made up word for men.