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I don’t think Rogan needs Spotify’s money. If he continues as before with zero changes then it’s on Spotify to send the message to all potential partners wether

by mikece 6y ago

I don’t think Rogan needs Spotify’s money. If he continues as before with zero changes then it’s on Spotify to send the message to all potential partners wether they will be free to be themselves or if they will be censored. I’m sure Spotify’s shareholders will have a lot to say if editorial/censorship decisions reflect negatively on the bottom line. Side note: it’s amazing to me we’re even having the discussion of censorship about a self-described liberal. Imagine what Spotify’s staff would do if they tried to land one of the biggest conservative podcasters?

troughway 6y ago
>Imagine what Spotify’s staff would do if they tried to land one of the biggest conservative podcasters? Bawl their eyes out and chant protest mantras outside of their office building?
- MSM 6y ago
  Seems like you're making this a little bit more political than you should be. If I work for a bank and I find out they have predatory lending (and I had the luxury of being in demand), I'd likely threaten to quit unless that was changed. We see similar things with companies all over the US and it's not usually seen as employees "bawling their eyes out and chanting mantras". Seems that because this particular instance involves some LGBTQ folks, you assume they're just walking around crying constantly... In reality this will happen the same way every work place dispute has happened for the last hundred years. Spotify can either tell their employees "sorry, we're keeping it as-is, you can turn your badge in if you are against this decision" or find their employees too valuable and find some middle ground with JRE.
  - troughway 6y ago
    That is a terrible analogy to apply here. "In reality", these disgruntled Spotify employees will take to social media with hashtags, cancelling and other trite bullshit in an effort to make the company look in the worst possible light. You'll hear accusations of sexual assault done by the upper management to everyone from the janitorial staff all the way to some senior employee. All kinds of shit will come out of the woodwork. You'll find out the company is toxic, misogynistic and that it is a horrible place for people to work. You'll hear how some employees go home crying every night because they feel assaulted. You're blind to the fact that anyone using the term "ally" in any of this is implicitly labeling anyone not with them an "enemy". This is warring language, and the whole thing is very tribal. But yes, lets go with predatory lending.
    - jjj123 6y ago
      Tangent but as someone who has used the word ally in the past, the opposite in my mind has not been enemy, it’s bystander.

by mikece 6y ago

troughway 6y ago

>Imagine what Spotify’s staff would do if they tried to land one of the biggest conservative podcasters? Bawl their eyes out and chant protest mantras outside of their office building?

MSM 6y ago
Seems like you're making this a little bit more political than you should be. If I work for a bank and I find out they have predatory lending (and I had the luxury of being in demand), I'd likely threaten to quit unless that was changed. We see similar things with companies all over the US and it's not usually seen as employees "bawling their eyes out and chanting mantras". Seems that because this particular instance involves some LGBTQ folks, you assume they're just walking around crying constantly... In reality this will happen the same way every work place dispute has happened for the last hundred years. Spotify can either tell their employees "sorry, we're keeping it as-is, you can turn your badge in if you are against this decision" or find their employees too valuable and find some middle ground with JRE.
- troughway 6y ago
  That is a terrible analogy to apply here. "In reality", these disgruntled Spotify employees will take to social media with hashtags, cancelling and other trite bullshit in an effort to make the company look in the worst possible light. You'll hear accusations of sexual assault done by the upper management to everyone from the janitorial staff all the way to some senior employee. All kinds of shit will come out of the woodwork. You'll find out the company is toxic, misogynistic and that it is a horrible place for people to work. You'll hear how some employees go home crying every night because they feel assaulted. You're blind to the fact that anyone using the term "ally" in any of this is implicitly labeling anyone not with them an "enemy". This is warring language, and the whole thing is very tribal. But yes, lets go with predatory lending.
  - jjj123 6y ago
    Tangent but as someone who has used the word ally in the past, the opposite in my mind has not been enemy, it’s bystander.