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People really see what they want to see. As a Swede this whole pandemic has been truly enlightening regarding peoples propensity for confirmation bias. It has b

by jahaja 6y ago

People really see what they want to see. As a Swede this whole pandemic has been truly enlightening regarding peoples propensity for confirmation bias. It has been truly shocking how prevalent it is throughout entire societies and ideologies. Here in Sweden the right-wing folks want to lock everything down and the left-wing want to keep deferring it to the experts. In the rest of the world it seems to be the other way around.

jtbayly 6y ago
Another way of looking at it: the left-wing people everywhere want to defer to the experts. It's just that the experts in different places are saying different things.
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natrik 6y ago
Can you provide some articles/material regarding right wingers wanting to lock things down in Sweden? I'm not familiar with Swedish politics and would be interested in reading more.
- jahaja 6y ago
  Throughout the pandemic the (neo-)Liberal (right-wing by Swedish standards) newspaper Dagens Nyheter (Today's News, dn.se) have led a campaign criticising the Swedish lax approach. The news site is paywalled however. The leader of the Swedish Democrats, the most right-wing in the Swedish parliament, called for the state epidemiologist, Anders Tegnells, to take responsibility and resign immediately: https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jimmie-akesson-tegnell-maste-avga-omedelbart/ https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jimmie-akesson-tegnell-mast... Interesting enough it's also the same kind of fringe-right that are protesting in against restrictions in Germany that is calling our approach genocidal here: "Tegnell is a danger to society" https://projektsanning.com/2020/03/12/coronaviruset-statsepidemiolog-tegnell-ar-en-fara-for-samhallet/ https://projektsanning.com/2020/03/12/coronaviruset-statsepi... "Tegnell reported to the Police due to the mass death among elderly" https://www.friatider.se/tegnell-polisanmald-massdoden-bland-aldre https://www.friatider.se/tegnell-polisanmald-massdoden-bland...
- username90 6y ago
  The debate is pretty calm compared to USA, most politicians agree with the general strategy so the opposition mostly criticize the execution. https://www.thelocal.se/20200530/swedish-opposition-demands-corona-commission https://www.thelocal.se/20200530/swedish-opposition-demands-...
- Kiro 6y ago
  I wish this complete upside-down debate would get more attention in international media but it's truly the reverse of what's happening in the US. While the official stance for all parties is that they support the strategy (the most right-wing party being the exception who is heavily criticizing it), it's more telling in social media. Hanif Bali, one of the most prominent right-wing figures in social media, has really been pushing for lockdowns/masks and is cheered on by his tail of alt-right followers. Meanwhile the left is mocking him, lockdowns and masks in general.

by jahaja 6y ago

jtbayly 6y ago

Another way of looking at it: the left-wing people everywhere want to defer to the experts. It's just that the experts in different places are saying different things.

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natrik 6y ago

Can you provide some articles/material regarding right wingers wanting to lock things down in Sweden? I'm not familiar with Swedish politics and would be interested in reading more.

jahaja 6y ago
Throughout the pandemic the (neo-)Liberal (right-wing by Swedish standards) newspaper Dagens Nyheter (Today's News, dn.se) have led a campaign criticising the Swedish lax approach. The news site is paywalled however. The leader of the Swedish Democrats, the most right-wing in the Swedish parliament, called for the state epidemiologist, Anders Tegnells, to take responsibility and resign immediately: https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jimmie-akesson-tegnell-maste-avga-omedelbart/ https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jimmie-akesson-tegnell-mast... Interesting enough it's also the same kind of fringe-right that are protesting in against restrictions in Germany that is calling our approach genocidal here: "Tegnell is a danger to society" https://projektsanning.com/2020/03/12/coronaviruset-statsepidemiolog-tegnell-ar-en-fara-for-samhallet/ https://projektsanning.com/2020/03/12/coronaviruset-statsepi... "Tegnell reported to the Police due to the mass death among elderly" https://www.friatider.se/tegnell-polisanmald-massdoden-bland-aldre https://www.friatider.se/tegnell-polisanmald-massdoden-bland...
username90 6y ago
The debate is pretty calm compared to USA, most politicians agree with the general strategy so the opposition mostly criticize the execution. https://www.thelocal.se/20200530/swedish-opposition-demands-corona-commission https://www.thelocal.se/20200530/swedish-opposition-demands-...
Kiro 6y ago
I wish this complete upside-down debate would get more attention in international media but it's truly the reverse of what's happening in the US. While the official stance for all parties is that they support the strategy (the most right-wing party being the exception who is heavily criticizing it), it's more telling in social media. Hanif Bali, one of the most prominent right-wing figures in social media, has really been pushing for lockdowns/masks and is cheered on by his tail of alt-right followers. Meanwhile the left is mocking him, lockdowns and masks in general.