> One reason you might be downvoted is because of this false equivalency. We all know the reasons for the downvotes. And funnily enough I predicted "false equi

> One reason you might be downvoted is because of this false equivalency. We all know the reasons for the downvotes. And funnily enough I predicted "false equivalency", "israel is our ally" or "whataboutism" response. You guys never disappointed. Like robots writing off a script. > and massive grass roots style propaganda efforts (maybe Israel is guilty of these too, but I haven't seen any credible accusations of such behavior) No? Ever look in the mirror? You are right, the zionist movement doesn't exist. But the real worry isn't the grassroots, it's the political elites that israel has in their pocket. Not to mention all the pro-israel "american right" all over youtube and social media. > However they do it the old fashioned way of political pressure and negotiation. This has always been allowed. Right, if you can say one thing about israel is that they play by the rules. /s Everything you accused china, russia, etc of, israel does, but "better". Not only that, they go beyond what china, russia, etc does. Including terrorism, sinking american ships, killing american troops, etc. > One is much more acceptable than the other. No, none of them are acceptable - but especially israel. Funny, you rarely see defense of china or russia, but in traditional and social media, there is always people justifying and defending israel. Where are the china/russia/etc grassroots movement? Where is their influence? The easiest way to debunk everything you wrote is the fact that we are talking about israel. Israel is nothing to america and to americans. Historically, economically, demographically, etc. But why are so much foreign policy, media, money, etc devoted to israel. It's easy to understand why russia or china or even north korea feature prominently. But why israel? But then again you already know all this so I'll end this here. And it's not just the US, they are meddling in the UK as well ( but we all knew this anyway ). https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/07/israeli-diplomat-shai-masot-caught-on-camera-plotting-to-take-down-uk-mps https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/07/israeli-dipl...