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I would tend to agree with you, but is's John Carmack leading the software group for it and I just cannot believe that he hasn't done a bunch of optimizations a

by cubano 6y ago

I would tend to agree with you, but is's John Carmack leading the software group for it and I just cannot believe that he hasn't done a bunch of optimizations and other work. It would just negate a reputation that he has worked his ass off his entire life to build if he hasn't done valuable targeted work on the visuals of the device.

moron4hire 6y ago
But he did most of that work on Gear VR (Snapdragon 805 when it first came out for the Galaxy Note 4) and Go (Snapdragon 821), long before Qualcomm started sinking so much stuff into the SOC (Snapdragon 835). My understanding with his involvement on Quest 1 was that he was primarily concerned with the PC streaming. His role since November is "Consulting CTO", which I basically take to mean "on call for questions as needed". Was he even invovled with Quest 2 beyond stuff ported from Quest 1? All I'm saying is that there is a path through which everything Carmack said could be true, and also the latest hardware doesn't really use what he built.
- cubano 6y ago
  Yes your information definitely creates a reasonable doubt that he would have had the time and job description to do serious head-down graphical-stack type developments. But I have a return volley for you...who on the Facebook/Oculas graphics programming team, knowing that jcarmack was your boss, wouldn't go full nuts on trying to create some slick tech to impress him with? I'm sure FB has the pick of the crop when it comes to hiring talent, and at least of few of those guys would have to be his fanboys and come up with very useful optimizations and enhancements to add to the Quest graphical stack, right?
  - moron4hire 6y ago
    Facebook only has the pick of engineers they can convince to move to California and work for Mark Zuckerberg. I know it's hard to believe, but there are a lot of us who have turned them down on multiple occasions. The competency of FANG engineers in general is highly overrated. They are humans. They don't have access to some kind of forbidden knowledge. The idea that these companies are uniquely competent such that competitors don't even have a chance is largely a marketing story.

by cubano 6y ago

moron4hire 6y ago

But he did most of that work on Gear VR (Snapdragon 805 when it first came out for the Galaxy Note 4) and Go (Snapdragon 821), long before Qualcomm started sinking so much stuff into the SOC (Snapdragon 835). My understanding with his involvement on Quest 1 was that he was primarily concerned with the PC streaming. His role since November is "Consulting CTO", which I basically take to mean "on call for questions as needed". Was he even invovled with Quest 2 beyond stuff ported from Quest 1? All I'm saying is that there is a path through which everything Carmack said could be true, and also the latest hardware doesn't really use what he built.

cubano 6y ago
Yes your information definitely creates a reasonable doubt that he would have had the time and job description to do serious head-down graphical-stack type developments. But I have a return volley for you...who on the Facebook/Oculas graphics programming team, knowing that jcarmack was your boss, wouldn't go full nuts on trying to create some slick tech to impress him with? I'm sure FB has the pick of the crop when it comes to hiring talent, and at least of few of those guys would have to be his fanboys and come up with very useful optimizations and enhancements to add to the Quest graphical stack, right?
- moron4hire 6y ago
  Facebook only has the pick of engineers they can convince to move to California and work for Mark Zuckerberg. I know it's hard to believe, but there are a lot of us who have turned them down on multiple occasions. The competency of FANG engineers in general is highly overrated. They are humans. They don't have access to some kind of forbidden knowledge. The idea that these companies are uniquely competent such that competitors don't even have a chance is largely a marketing story.