I mean I did explicitly say the West vs the West. And self-determination is definitely a special case so none of these apply. Again, the US vs the West? I'd b

I mean I did explicitly say the West vs the West. And self-determination is definitely a special case so none of these apply. Again, the US vs the West? I'd be surprised if its never happened. But the ensuing uproar is part of the politics - It's an extra hurdle for countries in a political maneuver. And a broadly positive hurdle.