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Couldn't care less about this. Just put out a paid version of Firefox that dedicates this revenue stream exclusively to continued Firefox development and I will

Couldn't care less about this. Just put out a paid version of Firefox that dedicates this revenue stream exclusively to continued Firefox development and I will happily pay fist fulls of money for it. Seriously, Firefox adds so much value to my life and I'd happily pay for it.

darkhorse13 6y ago
Same. Firefox is a great browser.
- ColanR 6y ago
  Except for the memory leaks.
  - mlindner 6y ago
    Chrome eats a lot more memory for me than Firefox.
    - ColanR 6y ago
      The difference is, chrome allocates what it needs upfront, and that's all it uses. Firefox keeps increasing its usage. That means that when I want to leave a website open on my server for a month, I use chrome because I know exactly how much memory it's going to use. If it was firefox, at the end of the month even the swap would be filled.
      - boomboomsubban 6y ago
        If you try to open something else after that month, does your computer crash or does Firefox happily give up the memory?
        ColanR 6y ago
        The only way to free up the memory is to close firefox. Closing tabs doesn't do anything. I can 'killall firefox' and then reopen it to the same 50 tabs, and the memory usage after they're loaded again will be several GB lower. I don't know if you count memory exhaustion as a 'crash' per se.
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        Does opening another program cause system instability? I don't know how you are monitoring it, but it sounds like Firefox is making use of the available ram for a cache. There's no real difference between cache and free memory, so using more is only a good thing.
        ColanR 6y ago
        Yes, it does. Monitoring is easy with htop - just look at the ram and swap usage. Leave FF open too long with too many tabs, and even the swap starts to fill up and the whole computer gets laggy. This is a well-known problem. What's hard to believe?
satya71 6y ago
https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/
- thatguy0900 6y ago
  I think the "exclusively for Firefox development" is pretty important. Mozilla is doing a lot of random things these days
  - Funes- 6y ago
    >Mozilla is doing a lot of random things these days Yeah, like paying three million to its CEO annually. That's not going into Firefox development alright.
    - boomboomsubban 6y ago
      The one who no longer works there? And how do you think they would build and manage a development team without executives?
      - Funes- 6y ago
        >The one who no longer works there? As far as I know, Mitchell Baker is still Mozilla's CEO. And even if she resigned, maintaining her salary would have been at odds with keeping many employees from being fired. >>I criticize unreasonably high salaries on a nonprofit organization that just laid off almost three hundred people >"you are saying that they can build and manage a development team without executives" If you want to engage in a discussion or a debate, at least be honest about it.
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        Mitchell Baker began as CEO in December, after the resignation of Chris Beard. Was permanently appointed CEO in April. Her salary for the position has not been released Mozilla is a nonprofit, not a charity. Their executives already receive less than market rate for similar companies, by some accounts far less. They can't offer nothing.

darkhorse13 6y ago

Same. Firefox is a great browser.

ColanR 6y ago
Except for the memory leaks.
- mlindner 6y ago
  Chrome eats a lot more memory for me than Firefox.
  - ColanR 6y ago
    The difference is, chrome allocates what it needs upfront, and that's all it uses. Firefox keeps increasing its usage. That means that when I want to leave a website open on my server for a month, I use chrome because I know exactly how much memory it's going to use. If it was firefox, at the end of the month even the swap would be filled.
    - boomboomsubban 6y ago
      If you try to open something else after that month, does your computer crash or does Firefox happily give up the memory?
      - ColanR 6y ago
        The only way to free up the memory is to close firefox. Closing tabs doesn't do anything. I can 'killall firefox' and then reopen it to the same 50 tabs, and the memory usage after they're loaded again will be several GB lower. I don't know if you count memory exhaustion as a 'crash' per se.
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        Does opening another program cause system instability? I don't know how you are monitoring it, but it sounds like Firefox is making use of the available ram for a cache. There's no real difference between cache and free memory, so using more is only a good thing.
        ColanR 6y ago
        Yes, it does. Monitoring is easy with htop - just look at the ram and swap usage. Leave FF open too long with too many tabs, and even the swap starts to fill up and the whole computer gets laggy. This is a well-known problem. What's hard to believe?

satya71 6y ago

https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/ https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/

thatguy0900 6y ago
I think the "exclusively for Firefox development" is pretty important. Mozilla is doing a lot of random things these days
- Funes- 6y ago
  >Mozilla is doing a lot of random things these days Yeah, like paying three million to its CEO annually. That's not going into Firefox development alright.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    The one who no longer works there? And how do you think they would build and manage a development team without executives?
    - Funes- 6y ago
      >The one who no longer works there? As far as I know, Mitchell Baker is still Mozilla's CEO. And even if she resigned, maintaining her salary would have been at odds with keeping many employees from being fired. >>I criticize unreasonably high salaries on a nonprofit organization that just laid off almost three hundred people >"you are saying that they can build and manage a development team without executives" If you want to engage in a discussion or a debate, at least be honest about it.
      - boomboomsubban 6y ago
        Mitchell Baker began as CEO in December, after the resignation of Chris Beard. Was permanently appointed CEO in April. Her salary for the position has not been released Mozilla is a nonprofit, not a charity. Their executives already receive less than market rate for similar companies, by some accounts far less. They can't offer nothing.