Discipline is good for a certain kind of person. Religion provides discipline for those who have no self-discipline. I don't see why so many on this thread nee

Discipline is good for a certain kind of person. Religion provides discipline for those who have no self-discipline. I don't see why so many on this thread need to convince themselves that religion never helps people. It does. I've seen it. Does it help everyone? Probably not. Is it a net positive for society as a whole? I don't think so. However, it clearly and surely helps some people some of the time. I don't have any numbers, just personal anecdotes, but I've sure seen people saved by religion who would otherwise probably be dead, and I'm a hardcore atheist radical.