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Wow there's a lot of childish homophobia coming out in the comments here. I (naively?) thought that HN would be better than that for some reason?

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cuddlecake 6y ago
Thinking that HN would be better than <insert any bad behavior here> is a bit too hopeful of an assumption. Everyone is prone to bad / ignorant behavior. HN users being no exception.
- CydeWeys 6y ago
  I disagree. Some communities are actually much better than others on a variety of issues. I mistakenly thought that this was an issue HN would have been better and more mature on too, but I'm learning I was wrong about that. But compare your average 8chan poster to your average HN poster and you'll see that for sure not all online communities are the same.
  - cuddlecake 6y ago
    I don't even know how to argue on this. The average HN poster is definitely better than the average 8chan poster. But that does not mean all HN posters are free of being hateful/discriminating against certain groups of people. Be it by accident or willfully.
    - CydeWeys 6y ago
      I for sure never thought that all HN posters were free of hate/discrimination, I just thought they were better than we're seeing here. But I was proven wrong in that.
  - apta 6y ago
    Except that being critical of homosexuality does not mean that someone is "homophobic" any more than someone critical of capitalism is "capitalism-phobic" or socialism as "socio-phobic" or whatever.
    - cuddlecake 6y ago
      Just for dummy me, can you make a statement that is "critical of homosexuality" but not homophobic?
      - apta 6y ago
        For example, that homosexual men have much higher incidents of HIV because of their practices.
        cuddlecake 6y ago
        And what are the practices you are speaking of?
        apta 6y ago
        Homosexual sex obviously.
        CydeWeys 6y ago
        What about monogamous gay men then? There are plenty of them. You should be more supportive of them than a straight single person who has more than one sexual partner. But you aren't, for some reason. You're specifically railing against gay people rather than unsafe promiscuity. Interesting ...
        apta 6y ago
        That's a weird argument telling me who I should and shouldn't support. Not sure what you're getting to.
dang 6y ago
I actually think there's a clear explanation for this: HN is much larger than it seems. There are millions of users. Every subgroup/tendency is going to be represented in a population sample that big, except for utterly obscure ones. Which subgroups/tendencies show up in the comments is therefore more a question of the particular thread: the title, the topic, and the early comments. If it seems like "HN would be better than $X", that's only because we mostly manage to avoid the stimuli that produce $X responses.

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cuddlecake 6y ago

Thinking that HN would be better than <insert any bad behavior here> is a bit too hopeful of an assumption. Everyone is prone to bad / ignorant behavior. HN users being no exception.

CydeWeys 6y ago
I disagree. Some communities are actually much better than others on a variety of issues. I mistakenly thought that this was an issue HN would have been better and more mature on too, but I'm learning I was wrong about that. But compare your average 8chan poster to your average HN poster and you'll see that for sure not all online communities are the same.
- cuddlecake 6y ago
  I don't even know how to argue on this. The average HN poster is definitely better than the average 8chan poster. But that does not mean all HN posters are free of being hateful/discriminating against certain groups of people. Be it by accident or willfully.
  - CydeWeys 6y ago
    I for sure never thought that all HN posters were free of hate/discrimination, I just thought they were better than we're seeing here. But I was proven wrong in that.
- apta 6y ago
  Except that being critical of homosexuality does not mean that someone is "homophobic" any more than someone critical of capitalism is "capitalism-phobic" or socialism as "socio-phobic" or whatever.
  - cuddlecake 6y ago
    Just for dummy me, can you make a statement that is "critical of homosexuality" but not homophobic?
    - apta 6y ago
      For example, that homosexual men have much higher incidents of HIV because of their practices.
      - cuddlecake 6y ago
        And what are the practices you are speaking of?
        apta 6y ago
        Homosexual sex obviously.
        CydeWeys 6y ago
        What about monogamous gay men then? There are plenty of them. You should be more supportive of them than a straight single person who has more than one sexual partner. But you aren't, for some reason. You're specifically railing against gay people rather than unsafe promiscuity. Interesting ...
        apta 6y ago
        That's a weird argument telling me who I should and shouldn't support. Not sure what you're getting to.

dang 6y ago

I actually think there's a clear explanation for this: HN is much larger than it seems. There are millions of users. Every subgroup/tendency is going to be represented in a population sample that big, except for utterly obscure ones. Which subgroups/tendencies show up in the comments is therefore more a question of the particular thread: the title, the topic, and the early comments. If it seems like "HN would be better than $X", that's only because we mostly manage to avoid the stimuli that produce $X responses.