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If this was the US, HN would be all over this. Instead, it is rationalizing it. Interesting.

fastball 6y ago
1. Most people in the thread seem against this. 2. Maybe it was more true when you posted 2 hours ago, but that is exactly why comments like this one are not helpful.
- jakearmitage 6y ago
  It is not about being against the subject or not. It's about the way the arguments are presented. In several threads, when the same scenario plays in the US, the comments are "ad hominem" attacks to the country and its culture. When it happens to Germany, the focus is on debating the actual issue. I'm not American, but the Americanophobia present here and the schadenfreude towards bad things happening in the US is quite the subject for a study. Regarding your statement that this comment is not useful: perhaps. I've been observing this trend and it's been interesting to write notes and have the groundwork for something more concrete. Then, it will probably be more helpful.
  - vinay427 6y ago
    > I'm not American, but the Americanophobia present here and the schadenfreude towards bad things happening in the US is quite the subject for a study. As an American in a European country, this rather nicely sums up my experience with some (and to be extra explicit, definitely not all) people from a wide variety of European countries. I've grown to find it rather amusing especially as it serves as a convenient litmus test to identify people with whom it is worth discussing interesting political topics. I suppose my point is that it's probably not just an HN effect. Many Americans also have their own bits on which to improve here, obviously, but I haven't personally been on that side of the table.
  - Nasrudith 6y ago
    I have noticed a reoccuring identity archetype of stereotype of any non-world power (including oddly enough large cities who are a world power) freely complaining about the entity in all aspects and then being offended if an outsider complains about it. As opposed to a "used to it" as a world power and being unable to counter by saying that the matter doesn't affect them. My guess is it might be a result of that sort of defensiveness forming social baselines that it results in a double standard where to say for example "It is because the people of the US doesn't want the pesky innovation part and just wants to rent seek." would be accepted but a non-hypothetical enclosed "It is because Germans don't want the pesky innovation part and just wants to rent seek." would get flagged as flamebait.

1. Most people in the thread seem against this. 2. Maybe it was more true when you posted 2 hours ago, but that is exactly why comments like this one are not helpful.

jakearmitage 6y ago
It is not about being against the subject or not. It's about the way the arguments are presented. In several threads, when the same scenario plays in the US, the comments are "ad hominem" attacks to the country and its culture. When it happens to Germany, the focus is on debating the actual issue. I'm not American, but the Americanophobia present here and the schadenfreude towards bad things happening in the US is quite the subject for a study. Regarding your statement that this comment is not useful: perhaps. I've been observing this trend and it's been interesting to write notes and have the groundwork for something more concrete. Then, it will probably be more helpful.
- vinay427 6y ago
  > I'm not American, but the Americanophobia present here and the schadenfreude towards bad things happening in the US is quite the subject for a study. As an American in a European country, this rather nicely sums up my experience with some (and to be extra explicit, definitely not all) people from a wide variety of European countries. I've grown to find it rather amusing especially as it serves as a convenient litmus test to identify people with whom it is worth discussing interesting political topics. I suppose my point is that it's probably not just an HN effect. Many Americans also have their own bits on which to improve here, obviously, but I haven't personally been on that side of the table.
- Nasrudith 6y ago
  I have noticed a reoccuring identity archetype of stereotype of any non-world power (including oddly enough large cities who are a world power) freely complaining about the entity in all aspects and then being offended if an outsider complains about it. As opposed to a "used to it" as a world power and being unable to counter by saying that the matter doesn't affect them. My guess is it might be a result of that sort of defensiveness forming social baselines that it results in a double standard where to say for example "It is because the people of the US doesn't want the pesky innovation part and just wants to rent seek." would be accepted but a non-hypothetical enclosed "It is because Germans don't want the pesky innovation part and just wants to rent seek." would get flagged as flamebait.