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I want to add a personal anecdote to this very interesting article. Basically as soon as I fully understood that all my voice communications were stored by the
by ike77 6y ago
I want to add a personal anecdote to this very interesting article.
Basically as soon as I fully understood that all my voice communications were stored by the NSA, by my ISP (and can be accessed by my countries government without me knowing), and by various other institutions and secret services, I decided to record all my phone calls.
The rationale being that I could not prevent most of the world to listen to me, but at least in the event they would use what I said against me, I had a piece of the evidence and would be able to defend myself.
On a more practical level, everytime I call a big company they have a prerecorded message telling me that the conversation "could" be recorded (they definitely record all of them). And those company (ISPs, insurances, government...) will very often promise thing on the telephone and then not follow through as they know that it is very hard for most people to precisely recall the content of the phone call, even less to prove it.
So, it did put me in a weird spot legally as my country's laws specify that the consent must be explicitly requested to the receiver of the call to be allowed to record. The thing is that it is not illegal to record phone calls without an agreement. But such a recording cannot be shared or released and would not be receivable as an evidence in a court of law.
I was perfectly happy with this situation, as already being able to precisely recall what was said during a call would alleviate a lot of concerns.
Android recently removed (in v.10) the possibility to record phone calls (except to a few of their close friends apps, FB, MS...)
They unilaterally decided to interpret my countries laws as an interdiction to record phone calls. On top of that, they made no official announcements about that, not even a trace in a changelog here or there.
The worst in all that is that obviously, most people didn't understand that it was Google's decisions. So now if you go to a call recorder's app page you will see a mass of people claiming that the app is a scam https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appstar.callrecorderpro&hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appstar.ca... . They even managed to totally shift the blame on their partners.
Now, the only option I'm left with if I want to be able to record calls again, seems to be to root my phone. Which obviously from a privacy focused perspective seems unacceptable (giving root access to all userland applications!)
So precisely as the article describe, I lost what I consider is a very important feature, I have no say or recourse in that and the issue is not big / mainstream enough to gather any attention.
- ragnese 6y agoRooting your phone does not give root access to all of your apps. Is this why people keep acting like rooting is a security risk? I'm very tired of this message. Google has root to your phone and you don't. You think that puts you in a better position? (Not "you", the person I'm replying to- the rhetorical "you")
- ike77 6y agoIt's true that I might not fully grasp what happens if I root my phone and it's part of the problem. It seems that the process of rooting my phone already requires me to download an APK's (KingoRoot?) from sketchy websites. And then what this APK's does is not clear either... Reading a bit, it seems that that this software could be considered as malware... So the process is not really transparent and is kind of scary. Maybe if you have a different perspective or some resources pointing to open source alternatives?
- aruggirello 6y ago> So the process is not really transparent and is kind of scary. Not at all. It's very straightforward - all you need is Magisk. For a starter, head to the Magisk github page: https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk Go to "installation instruction" and follow the instructions for your device.
- ragnese 6y agoTo be fair, the process is scary. Depending on your phone, rooting often involves exploiting security flaws because the manufacturers don't want you to have root (reason #1 that makes me want it all the more). I have an old Pixel 2, which allows you to unlock the bootloader, so I didn't have to break into my own device, which is nice. I don't know anything about KingoRoot. I use Magisk (https://magisk.me/ https://magisk.me/) which is FLOSS. When you have root on your phone, an app has to ask for root access. You may deny, grant temporarily (15 minute default IIRC), or grant forever. Very few app should require root. But it's important to me to be able to run whatever I want on my own computer.
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