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I only feel locked in to Apple because I despise Google so much and the 2 Android phones I previously had were complete garbage. If there was a another viable

I only feel locked in to Apple because I despise Google so much and the 2 Android phones I previously had were complete garbage. If there was a another viable option, I would go with it in a second.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago
Did you try a recent clean Android like Pixel or Oneplus or was your last Android experience some bloated 2016 era Samsung?
- encom 6y ago
  If one despises Google, buying a Google phone would be the least optimal solution.
- hazz99 6y ago
  The extremely deep integration with google services was always annoying for me. I'm still finding it hard to untangle myself now that I've fully moved to Apple devices.
- johnisgood 6y ago
  My older smartphone (few years old) had less Google-related stuff. And for one, it had its own goddamn music player. Can you imagine? I did not have to use Google Play by default, and go to the Play Store to download a fscking music player. A music player!
  - netsharc 6y ago
    Google Play Music graduated Google anyway, and is going to be killed soon...
  - toast0 6y ago
    It doesn't matter so much now, but I don't want them cluttering up my phone's rom with default apps I might not like, or that I can't take with me to a new phone. An ideal Android for me would come out of the box with a dialer (preferably AOSP), clock, keyboard, launcher, AOSP Browser, and a play store stub (play store might not be ideal, but it's the path of least effort).
    - johnisgood 6y ago
      Yeah, of course. It is a sad state of the store that I had to go through a few music players before I found one that did not shove ads in my face (or at all), and had all the basic functions you would expect a music player to have.
rob74 6y ago
My similar feelings towards Apple ("despise" would probably be too strong, but I don't really like them either, plus I'm too cheap to put up with their prices) means that I am pretty much locked in to Android, but there I at least have a choice between different manufacturers...

I only feel locked in to Apple because I despise Google so much and the 2 Android phones I previously had were complete garbage. If there was a another viable option, I would go with it in a second.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago

Did you try a recent clean Android like Pixel or Oneplus or was your last Android experience some bloated 2016 era Samsung?

encom 6y ago
If one despises Google, buying a Google phone would be the least optimal solution.
hazz99 6y ago
The extremely deep integration with google services was always annoying for me. I'm still finding it hard to untangle myself now that I've fully moved to Apple devices.
johnisgood 6y ago
My older smartphone (few years old) had less Google-related stuff. And for one, it had its own goddamn music player. Can you imagine? I did not have to use Google Play by default, and go to the Play Store to download a fscking music player. A music player!
- netsharc 6y ago
  Google Play Music graduated Google anyway, and is going to be killed soon...
- toast0 6y ago
  It doesn't matter so much now, but I don't want them cluttering up my phone's rom with default apps I might not like, or that I can't take with me to a new phone. An ideal Android for me would come out of the box with a dialer (preferably AOSP), clock, keyboard, launcher, AOSP Browser, and a play store stub (play store might not be ideal, but it's the path of least effort).
  - johnisgood 6y ago
    Yeah, of course. It is a sad state of the store that I had to go through a few music players before I found one that did not shove ads in my face (or at all), and had all the basic functions you would expect a music player to have.

rob74 6y ago

My similar feelings towards Apple ("despise" would probably be too strong, but I don't really like them either, plus I'm too cheap to put up with their prices) means that I am pretty much locked in to Android, but there I at least have a choice between different manufacturers...