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I've seen very unfortunate things happening when someone doesn't have notifications disabled when giving a presentation so I don't think this is a bad default.

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rbanffy 6y ago
I quit all noisy apps before doing presentations. It's a healthy habit.
- arethuza 6y ago
  It's actually a good argument for integration between screen-sharing apps and instant messaging/status - your status really should go to "Presenting" when you are presenting and for incoming alerts to automatically be hidden.
  - sktguha 6y ago
    That's a great idea!
    - arethuza 6y ago
      It's how Microsoft Teams works, not my idea!
  - koyote 6y ago
    That's how Teams works and if I remember rightly even Skype for business/Lync had this way back.
    - MandieD 6y ago
      Yes, that was the default behavior in Lync/SfB, but could be changed to not go into "Do Not Disturb" status when sharing your screen or presenting slides.
- bzb5 6y ago
  Don’t all apps nowadays send you notifications even if they are not running?
  - owl57 6y ago
    I believe such a horrible misfeature would require support from desktop environment. I mostly use XFCE and believe it doesn't have that feature. I'm not so sure, but believe that Windows is also mostly fine: note that an app minimized to tray is still running, "Quit" is distinct from "Close". Did I miss something in popular desktop environments?
    - 6510 6y ago
      If your job (as I've seen recently) is to give real time support it looks pretty nuts. Traditional landline telephones just ring loud and long enough to just work. In 2020 the laptop needs to be kept awake, the mail client has to be active, the wifi has to be connected. Woah, Reboot? just like that? I might get fired! Then, in the middle of the daily 8 hour tech paranoia she went to the toilet and the mail notifier was loud- but not long enough. It got flushed pretty much. I had to tell her she got an email. "WOAH? Really??" :rolleyes: The false alarms are also comical. Things like separate notification settings for different mail accounts is still a puzzle while it should be a simple filter settings. We got volume control in software but we didn't get to adjust it on a per feature-basis. I guess we are back at: 'Jack of all trades, master of none'
- ubermonkey 6y ago
  One of the most annoying and bad-taste shocking developments in OS X was when they changed the Messages app so that it still gives you notifications even if its not running, unless you deliberately enable Do Not Disturb. It's really really glaring and galling how bad that choice is. It's Microsoftian.
  - diebeforei485 6y ago
    The notifications aren't coming from the Messages app anymore, they are push notifications that are delivered over APNS.
taneq 6y ago
Maybe the issue isn't with the default notification behaviour in a teleconference program, but with the expectation that someone should always be instantly accessible via zoom/slack/what have you during work hours. (I mean, yeah, the meeting was presumably scheduled but the manager could have phoned or texed.)
- tasogare 6y ago
  In some places they even push the expectation of being accessible immediately at any time ("being on call"), and it’s not paid hours. Crazy times we live in.
  - bosie 6y ago
    who doesn't pay "on call" though?
    - draugadrotten 6y ago
      Management is never paid for being on call in my experience. It's just expected that you can be called any time for any reason.
    - ohyes 6y ago
      I've never been paid extra for 'on call', always been salaried and had it added as an expectation after the fact. I'll admit I've quit over it.
    - mrguyorama 6y ago
      I am an underpaid (for my area, experience, title, coworkers, etc) software developer who has occasional on call shifts and once a year holiday shifts with no extra pay or benefits
- CGamesPlay 6y ago
  Your argument seems to be that he should be instantly available on his telephone but not on zoom or slack? Seems like you're just shuffling the problem around.
reading-at-work 6y ago
A coworker had his work Macbook synced up to his iPhone messages app, and was getting blown up during a meeting by his friends in a group chat ranting about Trump. It could have been way worse. I've never understood why people sync their personal messages/emails to their work computers. It can and does get watched - gods help you if your friends have a borderline taste in memes and send you something offensive while you're presenting.

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rbanffy 6y ago

I quit all noisy apps before doing presentations. It's a healthy habit.

arethuza 6y ago
It's actually a good argument for integration between screen-sharing apps and instant messaging/status - your status really should go to "Presenting" when you are presenting and for incoming alerts to automatically be hidden.
- sktguha 6y ago
  That's a great idea!
  - arethuza 6y ago
    It's how Microsoft Teams works, not my idea!
- koyote 6y ago
  That's how Teams works and if I remember rightly even Skype for business/Lync had this way back.
  - MandieD 6y ago
    Yes, that was the default behavior in Lync/SfB, but could be changed to not go into "Do Not Disturb" status when sharing your screen or presenting slides.
bzb5 6y ago
Don’t all apps nowadays send you notifications even if they are not running?
- owl57 6y ago
  I believe such a horrible misfeature would require support from desktop environment. I mostly use XFCE and believe it doesn't have that feature. I'm not so sure, but believe that Windows is also mostly fine: note that an app minimized to tray is still running, "Quit" is distinct from "Close". Did I miss something in popular desktop environments?
  - 6510 6y ago
    If your job (as I've seen recently) is to give real time support it looks pretty nuts. Traditional landline telephones just ring loud and long enough to just work. In 2020 the laptop needs to be kept awake, the mail client has to be active, the wifi has to be connected. Woah, Reboot? just like that? I might get fired! Then, in the middle of the daily 8 hour tech paranoia she went to the toilet and the mail notifier was loud- but not long enough. It got flushed pretty much. I had to tell her she got an email. "WOAH? Really??" :rolleyes: The false alarms are also comical. Things like separate notification settings for different mail accounts is still a puzzle while it should be a simple filter settings. We got volume control in software but we didn't get to adjust it on a per feature-basis. I guess we are back at: 'Jack of all trades, master of none'
ubermonkey 6y ago
One of the most annoying and bad-taste shocking developments in OS X was when they changed the Messages app so that it still gives you notifications even if its not running, unless you deliberately enable Do Not Disturb. It's really really glaring and galling how bad that choice is. It's Microsoftian.
- diebeforei485 6y ago
  The notifications aren't coming from the Messages app anymore, they are push notifications that are delivered over APNS.

taneq 6y ago

Maybe the issue isn't with the default notification behaviour in a teleconference program, but with the expectation that someone should always be instantly accessible via zoom/slack/what have you during work hours. (I mean, yeah, the meeting was presumably scheduled but the manager could have phoned or texed.)

tasogare 6y ago
In some places they even push the expectation of being accessible immediately at any time ("being on call"), and it’s not paid hours. Crazy times we live in.
- bosie 6y ago
  who doesn't pay "on call" though?
  - draugadrotten 6y ago
    Management is never paid for being on call in my experience. It's just expected that you can be called any time for any reason.
  - ohyes 6y ago
    I've never been paid extra for 'on call', always been salaried and had it added as an expectation after the fact. I'll admit I've quit over it.
  - mrguyorama 6y ago
    I am an underpaid (for my area, experience, title, coworkers, etc) software developer who has occasional on call shifts and once a year holiday shifts with no extra pay or benefits
CGamesPlay 6y ago
Your argument seems to be that he should be instantly available on his telephone but not on zoom or slack? Seems like you're just shuffling the problem around.

reading-at-work 6y ago

A coworker had his work Macbook synced up to his iPhone messages app, and was getting blown up during a meeting by his friends in a group chat ranting about Trump. It could have been way worse. I've never understood why people sync their personal messages/emails to their work computers. It can and does get watched - gods help you if your friends have a borderline taste in memes and send you something offensive while you're presenting.