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It would be great if you could link to a recording that you think could induce this state, given that you’re an expert in this field! If I’m left to search on m

It would be great if you could link to a recording that you think could induce this state, given that you’re an expert in this field! If I’m left to search on my own I’m not sure I’ll find the correct recording.

sk5t 6y ago
+1 and why must it be an "old recording" - have modern Haitian voodoo drummers lost the way? Seems a bit set-up for shifting goalposts...
- dr_dshiv 6y ago
  https://youtu.be/D-mw9FJ7yec https://youtu.be/D-mw9FJ7yec This is from the 50s-60s.
  - lultimouomo 6y ago
    So should I get in a trance state listening to this?
    - vanderZwan 6y ago
      After four minutes? I doubt it. In my experience with trying to meditate to rhythms it takes fifteen minutes to half an hour before you really notice a significant difference to meditation without it. Also, "should" is not really the right word to use here - I would go with "might". What I mean with that is that this isn't like a pill whose are chemicals will do its on their own after consumption, with or without thinking about them. It's an effect that is produced through a sensory interaction with the brain. As a result, how one consciously attends to that interaction has a huge impact on the effectiveness.
  - briefcomment 6y ago
    Pretty great, but that poor chicken.
- bryanrasmussen 6y ago
  if you have perfection in a product, the only evolution possible is for it to become less perfect. People being people the best are not content with always doing the same thing, so they will experiment and move away, following other influences. The drumming may become great in other ways but not great in the way of inducing trance states the way it once way. Just my theory on why it might be that an old recording is better for inducing trance than a newer one might be.
  - Drakim 6y ago
    Your point is technically correct, but it seems a bit preposterous to say that the old drumming music was flawless perfection in introducing these sort of effects, to the point where any change would by definition be a determent. How would you know that? How would anybody know that?
    - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
      yeah, I wouldn't know, but if the old recordings seem better for inducing trance and the newer not I offer an explanation why that could be without the newer generation of Haitian voodoo drummers necessarily having to be worse drummers.
- pantalaimon 6y ago
  Probably new regulations.
  - willturman 6y ago
    It became much harder to find the psychoactive stuff once they were classified as Schedule 1 rhythms.
    - exikyut 6y ago
      That would be a great name for a band.
thewarrior 6y ago
I’ve been experimenting with this myself and this video https://youtu.be/BwqH7l9xSgo https://youtu.be/BwqH7l9xSgo along with some breathwork does seem to work.
- farseer 6y ago
  can you describe this "breathework"? So we can determine if mild asphyxia can be ruled out.
  - thewarrior 6y ago
    I advice people to take it slow and stop if uncomfortable. Whether it’s involved or not it works.
omarchowdhury 6y ago
Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxboZrFcvRo& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxboZrFcvRo& Give it your entire attention.
- 0xdeadb00f 6y ago
  I did not give it my entire attention, I'll do that later. But I will say this is just genuinely good music.
- khofstadter 6y ago
  very good music, thanks!
- vertbhrtn 6y ago
  Interesting music with a few novel techniques (a rarity in modern music), but it hardly has any physiological effects.
sbierwagen 6y ago
If we're talking drum-based drone ambient, there's Man Forever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1b6chDYxK4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1b6chDYxK4
montalbano 6y ago
Not OP but Smithsonian Folkways record label would be, in my mind, the best online source for such recordings. For example: https://folkways.si.edu/music-of-haiti-vol-2-drums-of-haiti/caribbean-world/album/smithsonian https://folkways.si.edu/music-of-haiti-vol-2-drums-of-haiti/... https://folkways.si.edu/rhythms-of-rapture-sacred-musics-of-haitian-vodou/caribbean-world/music/album/smithsonian https://folkways.si.edu/rhythms-of-rapture-sacred-musics-of-...

sk5t 6y ago

+1 and why must it be an "old recording" - have modern Haitian voodoo drummers lost the way? Seems a bit set-up for shifting goalposts...

dr_dshiv 6y ago
https://youtu.be/D-mw9FJ7yec https://youtu.be/D-mw9FJ7yec This is from the 50s-60s.
- lultimouomo 6y ago
  So should I get in a trance state listening to this?
  - vanderZwan 6y ago
    After four minutes? I doubt it. In my experience with trying to meditate to rhythms it takes fifteen minutes to half an hour before you really notice a significant difference to meditation without it. Also, "should" is not really the right word to use here - I would go with "might". What I mean with that is that this isn't like a pill whose are chemicals will do its on their own after consumption, with or without thinking about them. It's an effect that is produced through a sensory interaction with the brain. As a result, how one consciously attends to that interaction has a huge impact on the effectiveness.
- briefcomment 6y ago
  Pretty great, but that poor chicken.
bryanrasmussen 6y ago
if you have perfection in a product, the only evolution possible is for it to become less perfect. People being people the best are not content with always doing the same thing, so they will experiment and move away, following other influences. The drumming may become great in other ways but not great in the way of inducing trance states the way it once way. Just my theory on why it might be that an old recording is better for inducing trance than a newer one might be.
- Drakim 6y ago
  Your point is technically correct, but it seems a bit preposterous to say that the old drumming music was flawless perfection in introducing these sort of effects, to the point where any change would by definition be a determent. How would you know that? How would anybody know that?
  - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
    yeah, I wouldn't know, but if the old recordings seem better for inducing trance and the newer not I offer an explanation why that could be without the newer generation of Haitian voodoo drummers necessarily having to be worse drummers.
pantalaimon 6y ago
Probably new regulations.
- willturman 6y ago
  It became much harder to find the psychoactive stuff once they were classified as Schedule 1 rhythms.
  - exikyut 6y ago
    That would be a great name for a band.

thewarrior 6y ago

I’ve been experimenting with this myself and this video https://youtu.be/BwqH7l9xSgo https://youtu.be/BwqH7l9xSgo along with some breathwork does seem to work.

farseer 6y ago
can you describe this "breathework"? So we can determine if mild asphyxia can be ruled out.
- thewarrior 6y ago
  I advice people to take it slow and stop if uncomfortable. Whether it’s involved or not it works.

omarchowdhury 6y ago

Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxboZrFcvRo& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxboZrFcvRo& Give it your entire attention.

0xdeadb00f 6y ago
I did not give it my entire attention, I'll do that later. But I will say this is just genuinely good music.
khofstadter 6y ago
very good music, thanks!
vertbhrtn 6y ago
Interesting music with a few novel techniques (a rarity in modern music), but it hardly has any physiological effects.

sbierwagen 6y ago

If we're talking drum-based drone ambient, there's Man Forever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1b6chDYxK4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1b6chDYxK4

montalbano 6y ago

Not OP but Smithsonian Folkways record label would be, in my mind, the best online source for such recordings. For example: https://folkways.si.edu/music-of-haiti-vol-2-drums-of-haiti/caribbean-world/album/smithsonian https://folkways.si.edu/music-of-haiti-vol-2-drums-of-haiti/... https://folkways.si.edu/rhythms-of-rapture-sacred-musics-of-haitian-vodou/caribbean-world/music/album/smithsonian https://folkways.si.edu/rhythms-of-rapture-sacred-musics-of-...