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> You still haven't stated anything other than your opinion. That's all either of us have been doing. [EDIT] and an opinion can be a reason! They're not mutual

> You still haven't stated anything other than your opinion. That's all either of us have been doing. [EDIT] and an opinion can be a reason! They're not mutually exclusive. Do you need an itemized list of problems I have with webapps, with figures backing them all up (else they'd be opinions again, I guess)? I figured that'd been discussed to death, especially on HN. > Having a choice is always better than not having one with regards personal preferences. That's my standard. What's yours aside from "I don't like web apps"? I like being able to choose a platform that makes it hard for developers to get by with a webapp, pushing them toward native apps. See? I like choice too.

wayneftw 6y ago
> That's all either of us have been doing...and an opinion can be a reason! An opinion is pretty worthless without some reasoning. You still haven't stated any of yours. > Do you need an itemized list of problems I have with webapps, with figures backing them all up (else they'd be opinions again, I guess)? I figured that'd been discussed to death, especially on HN. Oh, I think I'm beginning to see what your problem is. There's no middle ground in your mind. It probably affects every facet of your life. It's either "I hate web apps and everybody has to immediately accept that this is a good reason for nobody to have any choice." or it's "You are asking me for an itemized list with figures backing them all up even though I feel like everybody should have read everything that was ever printed on HN at any time". Instead of simply stating a bit of your reasoning, you're attacking the whole idea of having reasons. It's a bad strategy and you're not going to convince anyone with that. > I like being able to choose a platform that makes it hard for developers to get by with a webapp, pushing them toward native apps. See? I like choice too. That's not a choice. That's an ultimatum based on a poorly reasoned opinion. I'm guessing you'll need to have the last word or you're going to have a really bad day. Enjoy that!
- Zippogriff 6y ago
  Sigh. I make an HN account yet again because I see a topic I actually, for real, know about and have something useful to contribute. Then keep commenting with it, pile up karma without really trying. Then end up in an argument with a certifiable troll and/or moron (one can never tell), while not even attempting to argue, even a little, mostly just trying to figure out why they're so angry and (every single time) bad at reading. Then get frustrated at how spectacularly shitposting-tolerant HN is despite its self-image and set my password to something I don't know, with no reset email. Rinse, repeat. Swear to god this is the last time you trick me, HN. I leave you to what you want to be.
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't cross into personal swipes. If a discussion gets to that point, it has long stopped being a good thread here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

wayneftw 6y ago

> That's all either of us have been doing...and an opinion can be a reason! An opinion is pretty worthless without some reasoning. You still haven't stated any of yours. > Do you need an itemized list of problems I have with webapps, with figures backing them all up (else they'd be opinions again, I guess)? I figured that'd been discussed to death, especially on HN. Oh, I think I'm beginning to see what your problem is. There's no middle ground in your mind. It probably affects every facet of your life. It's either "I hate web apps and everybody has to immediately accept that this is a good reason for nobody to have any choice." or it's "You are asking me for an itemized list with figures backing them all up even though I feel like everybody should have read everything that was ever printed on HN at any time". Instead of simply stating a bit of your reasoning, you're attacking the whole idea of having reasons. It's a bad strategy and you're not going to convince anyone with that. > I like being able to choose a platform that makes it hard for developers to get by with a webapp, pushing them toward native apps. See? I like choice too. That's not a choice. That's an ultimatum based on a poorly reasoned opinion. I'm guessing you'll need to have the last word or you're going to have a really bad day. Enjoy that!

Zippogriff 6y ago
Sigh. I make an HN account yet again because I see a topic I actually, for real, know about and have something useful to contribute. Then keep commenting with it, pile up karma without really trying. Then end up in an argument with a certifiable troll and/or moron (one can never tell), while not even attempting to argue, even a little, mostly just trying to figure out why they're so angry and (every single time) bad at reading. Then get frustrated at how spectacularly shitposting-tolerant HN is despite its self-image and set my password to something I don't know, with no reset email. Rinse, repeat. Swear to god this is the last time you trick me, HN. I leave you to what you want to be.
dang 6y ago
Please don't cross into personal swipes. If a discussion gets to that point, it has long stopped being a good thread here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html