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I am so confused why they didn't put efforts into making this an iPad app. There is a market for something like this that developers are crying out for, but on

by AJRF 6y ago

I am so confused why they didn't put efforts into making this an iPad app. There is a market for something like this that developers are crying out for, but on mac why would anyone use this over VSCode (and pay $99 for the privilege?)

chipotle_coyote 6y ago
Panic has an iOS code editor -- right now it's built off Coda, Nova's predecessor, but I'm sure if there's market demand for it, an iOS version will be coming. Having said that, a lot of software developers -- including Panic -- have not had great experiences trying to sell development tools on iOS. It feels like there should be a big enough market for this, but it's unclear there's actually much of one. If Apple brought Xcode to iPadOS it would likely require changes to the OS to support that kind of development toolchain, and that would make it easier for other companies to bring their tools, both commercial and free. But I half-suspect the official Apple answer to "when are you gonna let us develop on iPadOS" will be "may we interest you in this Apple Silicon-based, touch screen MacBook that natively runs iPad apps."
starik36 6y ago
Does anyone seriously want to develop on the iPad?
- reaperducer 6y ago
  Not all the time every day, but Panic’s Coda on an iPad saved my bacon once when I was on vacation.
- sixstringtheory 6y ago
  I am currently on a long path towards a central machine that I can remotely access from an iPad (and a laptop). In addition to connecting via ssh or screen sharing, I'd love to be able to clone git repositories on the iPad and edit locally. If I could Handoff something like a shallow clone of a git repo and its working index between iPad and mac, I'd be in love.
- scarlac 6y ago
  To straight up answer your question: Yes, I have friends who really like the iPad so much and wants to do development on it. Will it practically work? I really don't know. Until I see Xcode and/or Docker on iOS/iPadOS I am not very hopeful.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  I could see myself doing light drafts or a few Leetcode problems, or toying with an api on it. Nothing heavy.
- freehunter 6y ago
  I’ve been developing full-time on an iPad for the past two years. I got the idea from a series of blog posts that were written in 2011, so it’s not a new idea. If you search Twitter for #codespaces you’ll see after Microsoft announced Github Codespaces (a web-based IDE based on VSCode), much of the attention was on how this will further enable development on an iPad. Personally I used AWS Cloud9 which does the same as Codespaces. The iPad is a computer with a keyboard and mouse and a full-featured web browser. There are also language-specific native IDEs like Pythonista and Play.js. There are Git clients available natively as well. Pretty much the only thing you can’t do is make iPad apps on the iPad, which is a pretty small subset of programmers. Pythonista costs $10 and has nearly 1k reviews, so someone must be using it. So why do people constantly ask “does anyone really want to develop on a computer that offers many development options?” The answer is yes, of course people seriously want to develop on an iPad.
- svvcfb1212 6y ago
  Yes - I do it regularly. Blink SSH to get to my workstation at home + tmux + [console editor of choice]. Works great when I'm somewhere I don't want to carry my laptop to, have a cellular connection, and find a few minutes where I feel like doing some work. For context, this is day-job work in high performance computing. The only awkward part is when I'm editing papers, although I've been happy with working copy (for git) + local tex editor/compilers on the iPad. Not ideal for producing final copy, but good for editing and drafting.
deergomoo 6y ago
I think the main problem is what are you gonna do with the code once you’ve written it? There’s no way to run any sort of server or back-end service on iOS.

by AJRF 6y ago

chipotle_coyote 6y ago

Panic has an iOS code editor -- right now it's built off Coda, Nova's predecessor, but I'm sure if there's market demand for it, an iOS version will be coming. Having said that, a lot of software developers -- including Panic -- have not had great experiences trying to sell development tools on iOS. It feels like there should be a big enough market for this, but it's unclear there's actually much of one. If Apple brought Xcode to iPadOS it would likely require changes to the OS to support that kind of development toolchain, and that would make it easier for other companies to bring their tools, both commercial and free. But I half-suspect the official Apple answer to "when are you gonna let us develop on iPadOS" will be "may we interest you in this Apple Silicon-based, touch screen MacBook that natively runs iPad apps."

starik36 6y ago

Does anyone seriously want to develop on the iPad?

reaperducer 6y ago
Not all the time every day, but Panic’s Coda on an iPad saved my bacon once when I was on vacation.
sixstringtheory 6y ago
I am currently on a long path towards a central machine that I can remotely access from an iPad (and a laptop). In addition to connecting via ssh or screen sharing, I'd love to be able to clone git repositories on the iPad and edit locally. If I could Handoff something like a shallow clone of a git repo and its working index between iPad and mac, I'd be in love.
scarlac 6y ago
To straight up answer your question: Yes, I have friends who really like the iPad so much and wants to do development on it. Will it practically work? I really don't know. Until I see Xcode and/or Docker on iOS/iPadOS I am not very hopeful.
runawaybottle 6y ago
I could see myself doing light drafts or a few Leetcode problems, or toying with an api on it. Nothing heavy.
freehunter 6y ago
I’ve been developing full-time on an iPad for the past two years. I got the idea from a series of blog posts that were written in 2011, so it’s not a new idea. If you search Twitter for #codespaces you’ll see after Microsoft announced Github Codespaces (a web-based IDE based on VSCode), much of the attention was on how this will further enable development on an iPad. Personally I used AWS Cloud9 which does the same as Codespaces. The iPad is a computer with a keyboard and mouse and a full-featured web browser. There are also language-specific native IDEs like Pythonista and Play.js. There are Git clients available natively as well. Pretty much the only thing you can’t do is make iPad apps on the iPad, which is a pretty small subset of programmers. Pythonista costs $10 and has nearly 1k reviews, so someone must be using it. So why do people constantly ask “does anyone really want to develop on a computer that offers many development options?” The answer is yes, of course people seriously want to develop on an iPad.
svvcfb1212 6y ago
Yes - I do it regularly. Blink SSH to get to my workstation at home + tmux + [console editor of choice]. Works great when I'm somewhere I don't want to carry my laptop to, have a cellular connection, and find a few minutes where I feel like doing some work. For context, this is day-job work in high performance computing. The only awkward part is when I'm editing papers, although I've been happy with working copy (for git) + local tex editor/compilers on the iPad. Not ideal for producing final copy, but good for editing and drafting.

deergomoo 6y ago

I think the main problem is what are you gonna do with the code once you’ve written it? There’s no way to run any sort of server or back-end service on iOS.