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You can certainly get into a school without being a resident. They might ask you to leave if you are disrupting classes or whatever, sure, but there's nothing t

by lhorie 6y ago

You can certainly get into a school without being a resident. They might ask you to leave if you are disrupting classes or whatever, sure, but there's nothing that says you can't come from out of state and pick up your grandchildren after school, for example (provided that the parents have provided prior permission). Or just talk to the faculty, etc. Journalists do that. Another example: before Covid, my kid's school provided parking spots in school grounds for a nearby festival as a fundraiser. And in many schools, events like science fairs are open to the public. As for landfills, I'm not sure there's a distinction between residents and non-residents. AFAIK, they're treated in similar ways to preservation areas, where mostly everyone is forbidden from entering, except the people who are working there (and happen to live nearby by proxy)

quesera 6y ago
Sorry, I wrote "landfill" but I really meant "transfer station" -- i.e. the place you go to drop off rubbish/garbage/trash/recyclables, some of which gets plowed into the landfill. Re: schools.. Many school grounds are not open to the public. Special events, perhaps, but you can't generally just wander in. In the odd circumstances you describe (journalists, parentally-designated temporary guardians), arrangements must be made in advance and can often be denied, or are on behalf of the resident. Again, I'm just not sure where the line gets drawn. Parks are open space, and traditionally open to the public, but many other city-operated and -funded facilities are not. You might conclude that the marginal operating expense of parks is not high enough for most towns to justify gatekeeping. But it's imaginable that some municipalities calculate expenses differently. All of this is aside from PA's history of racial exclusion, which I know nothing about. Appearances matter too!
leetcrew 6y ago
> You can certainly get into a school without being a resident. in my city you cannot do this unless you have a really good reason. the doors are steel and controlled from a central office. the administration may choose to let a journalist in if they feel it is beneficial to the school, but they can absolutely choose not to.
- lhorie 6y ago
  So, for security reasons, right? Then, I imagine a random resident would also be denied entry based on the same criteria as a non-resident, no? It still is similar to preservation areas, in that entry is restricted for some logistical reason rather than proof of residence.

by lhorie 6y ago

quesera 6y ago

Sorry, I wrote "landfill" but I really meant "transfer station" -- i.e. the place you go to drop off rubbish/garbage/trash/recyclables, some of which gets plowed into the landfill. Re: schools.. Many school grounds are not open to the public. Special events, perhaps, but you can't generally just wander in. In the odd circumstances you describe (journalists, parentally-designated temporary guardians), arrangements must be made in advance and can often be denied, or are on behalf of the resident. Again, I'm just not sure where the line gets drawn. Parks are open space, and traditionally open to the public, but many other city-operated and -funded facilities are not. You might conclude that the marginal operating expense of parks is not high enough for most towns to justify gatekeeping. But it's imaginable that some municipalities calculate expenses differently. All of this is aside from PA's history of racial exclusion, which I know nothing about. Appearances matter too!

leetcrew 6y ago

> You can certainly get into a school without being a resident. in my city you cannot do this unless you have a really good reason. the doors are steel and controlled from a central office. the administration may choose to let a journalist in if they feel it is beneficial to the school, but they can absolutely choose not to.

lhorie 6y ago
So, for security reasons, right? Then, I imagine a random resident would also be denied entry based on the same criteria as a non-resident, no? It still is similar to preservation areas, in that entry is restricted for some logistical reason rather than proof of residence.