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I never accept web notifications, not even on slack. The problem is that if Apple singlehandedly decide what's right and what isn't we are back to IE.

scarface74 6y ago
There is a middle ground I would be okay with. A website is only allowed to ask you if want notifications if you added it to your home screen. If you delete the web page from your home screen, it automatically disabled the notification. It falls within the same paradigm that people are accustomed to.
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  AFAIK this is not the way Safari works and it's not the main motivation for Apple They just don't want web apps to rival with the native ones skipping the whole store experience and fee But that's just speculation on my side, I have no data to back it up
  - scarface74 6y ago
    This makes no sense. As I said in another reply. If PWAs are so great, why aren’t companies bypassing creating Android apps and just telling Android users to use web apps? On top of that, how many apps are really just surfacing server hosted services where there are no in app purchases?
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      According to the data I found, PWAs make 50% of the Android market. Among the most popular there are - Uber - Pinterest - Telegram - Trivago - Tinder - Google maps Go - AliExpress
      - scarface74 6y ago
        Yet most of those companies decided to make native apps. If PWA’s were good enough, why bother writing native apps for Android? Do you have a citation?
        romanoderoma 6y ago
        > PWA’s were good enough, why bother writing native apps for Android? same reason people write native apps on iOS It's easier to track users, especially those users rich enough to buy high end phones and that will probably spend more money and the ROI is higher. They also make PWAS to gain user base on low end phones and emerging markets. And because making them is quite cheap.
        scarface74 6y ago
        So most companies aren’t using PWAs to save money on Android and probably wouldn’t on iOS either.... Do you propose that Apple makes Safari more able to invade privacy? If the only purpose of PWAs for Android is to make it easier to run on low end cheap phones - that’s really not a good argument is it with iOS is it? Even the 6s from 2015 is more performant than many mid range new Android phones.

scarface74 6y ago

There is a middle ground I would be okay with. A website is only allowed to ask you if want notifications if you added it to your home screen. If you delete the web page from your home screen, it automatically disabled the notification. It falls within the same paradigm that people are accustomed to.

romanoderoma 6y ago
AFAIK this is not the way Safari works and it's not the main motivation for Apple They just don't want web apps to rival with the native ones skipping the whole store experience and fee But that's just speculation on my side, I have no data to back it up
- scarface74 6y ago
  This makes no sense. As I said in another reply. If PWAs are so great, why aren’t companies bypassing creating Android apps and just telling Android users to use web apps? On top of that, how many apps are really just surfacing server hosted services where there are no in app purchases?
  - romanoderoma 6y ago
    According to the data I found, PWAs make 50% of the Android market. Among the most popular there are - Uber - Pinterest - Telegram - Trivago - Tinder - Google maps Go - AliExpress
    - scarface74 6y ago
      Yet most of those companies decided to make native apps. If PWA’s were good enough, why bother writing native apps for Android? Do you have a citation?
      - romanoderoma 6y ago
        > PWA’s were good enough, why bother writing native apps for Android? same reason people write native apps on iOS It's easier to track users, especially those users rich enough to buy high end phones and that will probably spend more money and the ROI is higher. They also make PWAS to gain user base on low end phones and emerging markets. And because making them is quite cheap.
        scarface74 6y ago
        So most companies aren’t using PWAs to save money on Android and probably wouldn’t on iOS either.... Do you propose that Apple makes Safari more able to invade privacy? If the only purpose of PWAs for Android is to make it easier to run on low end cheap phones - that’s really not a good argument is it with iOS is it? Even the 6s from 2015 is more performant than many mid range new Android phones.