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What was the point of this comment? You listen using a service that abuses its users and you want everyone to know it, sure, but...there's literally no substanc

by kick 6y ago

What was the point of this comment? You listen using a service that abuses its users and you want everyone to know it, sure, but...there's literally no substance to the comment. It's pure fluff. You didn't even explain why or give any reasoning whatsoever. Just, "I do [thing]."

TylerE 6y ago
If the way Audible treats me is abuse, I can only say I wish more companies were abusive. It is absolutely frictionless and cheaper than competing services. All my titles are available on all my devices, and progress syncs perfectly. As a consumer, it is far far easier and more convenient than having to manually download mp3s off a shared drive or something, never mind the issue of how you sync progress.
- Jtsummers 6y ago
  This gets to one of the main issues. Opponents of DRM need an equivalent service (ubiquity of apps for listening, reliability of progress syncing, discoverability of new content) and they need to market it. Audible has become synonymous with audiobooks for many people, so alternate services need better marketing to reach those consumers.
chrisseaton 6y ago
> You listen using a service that abuses its users It doesn't abuse me. It makes my life net better than it was before I used it. This is a really important point for you - many people value what they practically get from a service - not abstract concepts of freedom. What I care about is getting to listen to the book. I don't care about your DRM problems. I don't care about file formats. I care about the words that the author wrote going into my head. That's what I came for. If they give me that I'm a happy customer.
- kick 6y ago
  I wasn't commenting on that, I frankly don't care if you think a service that gives people felonies (Doctorow's main complaint) is abusive: I know it is, and your lazy argument about convenience isn't going to change that. This person wasn't commenting about whether or not it was abusive, however: they weren't commenting about anything. My comment was asking why 'forbiddenvoid wrote his comment, which literally contributed nothing at all to the discussion. It's pure fluff. It took no stance, and literally made no statement beyond "I use the most popular platform to listen to my ebooks." Completely void of substance in any way possible.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > which literally contributed nothing at all to the discussion They contributed the same thought as I expanded on - what they care about is the book, not technical issues. That’s a useful thing to comment because it’s what 99% of people care about.
    - kick 6y ago
      They didn't contribute a thought, though.
- bo1024 6y ago
  You might find these funny and/or thought provoking: https://xkcd.com/743/ https://xkcd.com/743/ https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/129/ https://xkcd.com/129/ https://xkcd.com/511/ https://xkcd.com/511/
renewiltord 6y ago
To signal to creators where the spenders are.

by kick 6y ago

TylerE 6y ago

If the way Audible treats me is abuse, I can only say I wish more companies were abusive. It is absolutely frictionless and cheaper than competing services. All my titles are available on all my devices, and progress syncs perfectly. As a consumer, it is far far easier and more convenient than having to manually download mp3s off a shared drive or something, never mind the issue of how you sync progress.

Jtsummers 6y ago
This gets to one of the main issues. Opponents of DRM need an equivalent service (ubiquity of apps for listening, reliability of progress syncing, discoverability of new content) and they need to market it. Audible has become synonymous with audiobooks for many people, so alternate services need better marketing to reach those consumers.

chrisseaton 6y ago

> You listen using a service that abuses its users It doesn't abuse me. It makes my life net better than it was before I used it. This is a really important point for you - many people value what they practically get from a service - not abstract concepts of freedom. What I care about is getting to listen to the book. I don't care about your DRM problems. I don't care about file formats. I care about the words that the author wrote going into my head. That's what I came for. If they give me that I'm a happy customer.

kick 6y ago
I wasn't commenting on that, I frankly don't care if you think a service that gives people felonies (Doctorow's main complaint) is abusive: I know it is, and your lazy argument about convenience isn't going to change that. This person wasn't commenting about whether or not it was abusive, however: they weren't commenting about anything. My comment was asking why 'forbiddenvoid wrote his comment, which literally contributed nothing at all to the discussion. It's pure fluff. It took no stance, and literally made no statement beyond "I use the most popular platform to listen to my ebooks." Completely void of substance in any way possible.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > which literally contributed nothing at all to the discussion They contributed the same thought as I expanded on - what they care about is the book, not technical issues. That’s a useful thing to comment because it’s what 99% of people care about.
  - kick 6y ago
    They didn't contribute a thought, though.
bo1024 6y ago
You might find these funny and/or thought provoking: https://xkcd.com/743/ https://xkcd.com/743/ https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/488/ https://xkcd.com/129/ https://xkcd.com/129/ https://xkcd.com/511/ https://xkcd.com/511/

renewiltord 6y ago

To signal to creators where the spenders are.