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> Ozone generators are a safety hazard to other passengers so I’m glad they are banning the use of those It sounds like they're banning people from bringing th

> Ozone generators are a safety hazard to other passengers so I’m glad they are banning the use of those It sounds like they're banning people from bringing them on board, on just from using them. Also there are other types of ozone generators beyond just air the ones used in air filters. There are lots of folks who are mixing ozone with blood and injecting it back into themselves in an attempt to cure covid. Whatever the risks of doing this are, someone having the machine that does this isn't going to harm other people on a flight.

JumpCrisscross 6y ago
> It sounds like they're banning people from bringing them on board, on just from using them Why do they need to bring it on board if they aren't going to use it? Given it's a safety risk if used and has no approved therapeutic use the rule seems fine. > lots of folks who are mixing ozone with blood and injecting it back into themselves in an attempt to cure covid Presumably this can wait until they land.
- oarsinsync 6y ago
  > Why do they need to bring it on board if they aren't going to use it? No checked luggage? To use at the other side? To deliver to someone else? Air travel is horrible enough already with the BS restrictions (eg water bottles). Let’s not encourage making it even worse. Airlines are already screwed enough right now without putting off the few people that are still travelling with even more restrictions and surcharges.
  - tssva 6y ago
    "Airlines are already screwed enough right now without putting off the few people that are still travelling with even more restrictions and surcharges." Evidently American Airlines would disagree with you since they are imposing this rule themselves.
  - lazyasciiart 6y ago
    > No checked luggage? To use at the other side? To deliver to someone else? "No checked luggage" is a choice. I've checked luggage specifically and only to transport something I couldn't bring in the cabin. It's not unusual.
  - sassycassie 6y ago
    amen dude. its getting ridiculous
- mandelbrotwurst 6y ago
  U.S. airlines started charging extra years ago to NOT carry things on board.
outworlder 6y ago
> there are lots of folks who are mixing ozone with blood and injecting it back into themselves in an attempt to cure covid What? Every day I lose more faith in humanity.
pjc50 6y ago
Where's this nuttiness coming from? Ozone is harmful to cells, that's why it's used for water purification. This is just a fancy version of the bleach injection, isn't it.
- Alex3917 6y ago
  Everything is harmful to cells. The dosage makes the poison.
- pjkundert 6y ago
  Mild oxidants are generally more harmful to to bacteria, viruses, etc., than to healthy cells. That's the basic theory. That's also why you can purify water with a bleach (Chlorine Dioxide) tablet, and then drink the solution harmlessly. This isn't rocket science.
  - pjc50 6y ago
    Toxicity threshold for chlorine dioxide appears to be 0.8mg/L, so not that harmless, and I can't find any safety limits for injection! (sibling comment about dose making the poison is correct, yes)
- m0zg 6y ago
  FYI, here's what Trump meant by "inject disinfectant into the body": https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2020-04-20/aytu-bioscience-signs-exclusive-global-license-with-cedars-sinai-for-potential-coronavirus-treatment https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2020-04-20/aytu-bio.... These folks inject UV light source into the body via the breathing tube. He never said "bleach" - that was made up by reporters.
  - slavak 6y ago
    No, it objectively isn't. The context of Trump's comments was a presentation by Bill Bryan from the Department of Homeland security on how to fight COVID-19, in which he explicitly discussed that a) The virus dies quickest in the presence of direct sunlight. and b) Readily available household disinfectants are effective at killing the virus. He specifically mentions that bleach and isopropyl alcohol had been tested. This is the immediate context in which Trump's comments about putting light inside the body and injecting disinfectant were made. There is absolutely no doubt what he meant here. Stop trying to gaslight people. All of this is on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y

JumpCrisscross 6y ago

> It sounds like they're banning people from bringing them on board, on just from using them Why do they need to bring it on board if they aren't going to use it? Given it's a safety risk if used and has no approved therapeutic use the rule seems fine. > lots of folks who are mixing ozone with blood and injecting it back into themselves in an attempt to cure covid Presumably this can wait until they land.

oarsinsync 6y ago
> Why do they need to bring it on board if they aren't going to use it? No checked luggage? To use at the other side? To deliver to someone else? Air travel is horrible enough already with the BS restrictions (eg water bottles). Let’s not encourage making it even worse. Airlines are already screwed enough right now without putting off the few people that are still travelling with even more restrictions and surcharges.
- tssva 6y ago
  "Airlines are already screwed enough right now without putting off the few people that are still travelling with even more restrictions and surcharges." Evidently American Airlines would disagree with you since they are imposing this rule themselves.
- lazyasciiart 6y ago
  > No checked luggage? To use at the other side? To deliver to someone else? "No checked luggage" is a choice. I've checked luggage specifically and only to transport something I couldn't bring in the cabin. It's not unusual.
- sassycassie 6y ago
  amen dude. its getting ridiculous
mandelbrotwurst 6y ago
U.S. airlines started charging extra years ago to NOT carry things on board.

outworlder 6y ago

> there are lots of folks who are mixing ozone with blood and injecting it back into themselves in an attempt to cure covid What? Every day I lose more faith in humanity.

pjc50 6y ago

Where's this nuttiness coming from? Ozone is harmful to cells, that's why it's used for water purification. This is just a fancy version of the bleach injection, isn't it.

Alex3917 6y ago
Everything is harmful to cells. The dosage makes the poison.
pjkundert 6y ago
Mild oxidants are generally more harmful to to bacteria, viruses, etc., than to healthy cells. That's the basic theory. That's also why you can purify water with a bleach (Chlorine Dioxide) tablet, and then drink the solution harmlessly. This isn't rocket science.
- pjc50 6y ago
  Toxicity threshold for chlorine dioxide appears to be 0.8mg/L, so not that harmless, and I can't find any safety limits for injection! (sibling comment about dose making the poison is correct, yes)
m0zg 6y ago
FYI, here's what Trump meant by "inject disinfectant into the body": https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2020-04-20/aytu-bioscience-signs-exclusive-global-license-with-cedars-sinai-for-potential-coronavirus-treatment https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2020-04-20/aytu-bio.... These folks inject UV light source into the body via the breathing tube. He never said "bleach" - that was made up by reporters.
- slavak 6y ago
  No, it objectively isn't. The context of Trump's comments was a presentation by Bill Bryan from the Department of Homeland security on how to fight COVID-19, in which he explicitly discussed that a) The virus dies quickest in the presence of direct sunlight. and b) Readily available household disinfectants are effective at killing the virus. He specifically mentions that bleach and isopropyl alcohol had been tested. This is the immediate context in which Trump's comments about putting light inside the body and injecting disinfectant were made. There is absolutely no doubt what he meant here. Stop trying to gaslight people. All of this is on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgVxGkrX1Y