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> Also revenue is the most objective way to measure value. Nonsense. Wikipedia must be worthless for you? What about air? Do you feel you'd breathe with more s

> Also revenue is the most objective way to measure value. Nonsense. Wikipedia must be worthless for you? What about air? Do you feel you'd breathe with more satisfaction if someone was profiting from the air you breathe? On the other hand, there's plenty of immensely profitable things that have negative value. Cigarettes? Oil? Weapons? Opioids? I could go on and on.

scarface74 6y ago
And you still haven’t come up with a situation where a major developer was forced to make an iOS app and decided to be content with a PWA for Android customers. “Value” has a definite meaning in economics. If someone is willing to pay for something, it has value to them.
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- pietrovismara 6y ago
  I don't even care about iOS. I just despise your definition of value, since it's simply wrong and dangerous.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Whether you despise it or not. It’s the only objective measure that we have to ascertain the value that a population puts on an item.
    - pietrovismara 6y ago
      How can it be objective when every single individual would bid a different price for the same product, if asked without being shown the market price beforehand? It's all about perception and -my friend, I have bad news for you- perception is all but objective. Yes, perception of value can be manipulated through tools like marketing. That doesn't make the product itself anymore (or less) valuable than it actually is.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        That’s the issue. Anyone could respond that they have an app that valuable to only them and their best friend. What better choice do we have than to measure value across a population? How much value a population places on something based on how much they are willing to pay is objective. Whether that value is utilitarian or based on other factors is subjective. Are we really arguing about basic supply and demand? Yes suppliers have methods to drive demand.

scarface74 6y ago

And you still haven’t come up with a situation where a major developer was forced to make an iOS app and decided to be content with a PWA for Android customers. “Value” has a definite meaning in economics. If someone is willing to pay for something, it has value to them.

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pietrovismara 6y ago
I don't even care about iOS. I just despise your definition of value, since it's simply wrong and dangerous.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Whether you despise it or not. It’s the only objective measure that we have to ascertain the value that a population puts on an item.
  - pietrovismara 6y ago
    How can it be objective when every single individual would bid a different price for the same product, if asked without being shown the market price beforehand? It's all about perception and -my friend, I have bad news for you- perception is all but objective. Yes, perception of value can be manipulated through tools like marketing. That doesn't make the product itself anymore (or less) valuable than it actually is.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      That’s the issue. Anyone could respond that they have an app that valuable to only them and their best friend. What better choice do we have than to measure value across a population? How much value a population places on something based on how much they are willing to pay is objective. Whether that value is utilitarian or based on other factors is subjective. Are we really arguing about basic supply and demand? Yes suppliers have methods to drive demand.