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To be fair, this seems reasonable. There has to be a line that is drawn. Having everyone wearing full body pods isn't feasible. If you honestly feel like you n

To be fair, this seems reasonable. There has to be a line that is drawn. Having everyone wearing full body pods isn't feasible. If you honestly feel like you need a full body pod, maybe you should seek a different mode of transport.

hadlock 6y ago
There's a bunch of eager grandparents looking forward to seeing their first grandchild born, as well as loved ones going to funerals etc. These people trend towards being over 55 and a cross country solo road trip for a widowed grandmother is not always an option for them, and covid isn't going to stop them from getting on a plane if possible.
- bostonpete 6y ago
  Most air travel is for a good reason, and most of it is avoidable in the current environment. There are other ways to see a grandchild or pay respects to the deceased. It sucks, but we're all in the same boat
  - sunkenvicar 6y ago
    Ew. I hope you get nowhere near political power.
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- easytiger 6y ago
  > and covid isn't going to stop them from getting on a plane if possible. Then get on the plane in a shirt and trousers. Literally no need for this stuff
- zobzu 6y ago
  I've a parent that died just before COVID started and I'm not allowed to go there (travel ban). While I disagree with the risk of COVID, I would agree that if the risk was so great I should make a choice between minimum safety and my convenience of being able to mourn properly. Having a person that died or whatever shouldn't suddenly mean I'm the victim of the day and everyone else should bend over to make my day better. If anything, that wouldn't even scale. That said it's moot because I personally have neither option heh.
- lazyasciiart 6y ago
  A grandparent who wants to visit a newborn is the epitome of "neither of you should travel". It's like people don't even consider the option of actually adjusting their expectations based on changed world conditions. Easy for me to say, of course, since I live far enough away from my family that I've already become used to missing funerals and weddings and babies, and now I couldn't go home if I wanted to.
jefftk 6y ago
> Having everyone wearing full body pods isn't feasible. How is someone wearing a full body pod in a window seat (as pictured in the article) causing problems for others?
- nharada 6y ago
  I'm guessing it's a safety thing? Having a bunch of people in bubble suits would make it really hard to evacuate the plane.
  - ragnese 6y ago
    Wouldn't this be a simple case of measuring the probability of needing to evacuate the plane quickly vs. probability of catching covid-19 and dying? Honestly, right now, for an elderly person, the covid risk is probably higher.
    - wizzwizz4 6y ago
      Conditional probability is a bit too advanced for the people making these decisions at the moment. (That's not to say that they're incapable of taking it into account; I'm sure most of them would be able to understand and use the concepts. They just don't.)
    - ketamine__ 6y ago
      Isolating at home is a good way to stay safe if vulnerable.
      - OJFord 6y ago
        ..from both eventualities!
    - thinkharderdev 6y ago
      Theoretically you could, but in practice I don't know that we can reliably determine either of those probabilities with any accuracy. For instance, COVID risk is highly dependent (even for elderly people) on the presence of comorbidities. Are you going to ask everyone on the flight for their medical history?
Hnaomyiph 6y ago
Not to mention the egress issues large safety equipment might cause. I can’t imagine an emergency deplane where everyone is effectively in inflatable sumo suits.
- mrob 6y ago
  This is a reasonable position, assuming you're also in favor of banning obese people from flights.
  - WilTimSon 6y ago
    There's a difference between people's own weight which they can't easily control or change and excessive personal protection which can be swapped for a mask and a bottle of hand sanitizer. I don't see the reason for banning these outright though, maybe just choose a section of the cabin where people wearing these can be grouped. It's convenient for everyone and doesn't pose any extra risks for the rest of the passengers.
  - thinkharderdev 6y ago
    I think the concern with the pods is different from large body mass. The pod gets tossed (presumably) in an emergency situation so it can end up somewhere that is blocking someone else from safely evacuating. It would be less like an obese person than a normal weight person wearing a fat suit which they discard and throw in the aisle if they have to emergency deplane.

hadlock 6y ago

There's a bunch of eager grandparents looking forward to seeing their first grandchild born, as well as loved ones going to funerals etc. These people trend towards being over 55 and a cross country solo road trip for a widowed grandmother is not always an option for them, and covid isn't going to stop them from getting on a plane if possible.

bostonpete 6y ago
Most air travel is for a good reason, and most of it is avoidable in the current environment. There are other ways to see a grandchild or pay respects to the deceased. It sucks, but we're all in the same boat
- sunkenvicar 6y ago
  Ew. I hope you get nowhere near political power.
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easytiger 6y ago
> and covid isn't going to stop them from getting on a plane if possible. Then get on the plane in a shirt and trousers. Literally no need for this stuff
zobzu 6y ago
I've a parent that died just before COVID started and I'm not allowed to go there (travel ban). While I disagree with the risk of COVID, I would agree that if the risk was so great I should make a choice between minimum safety and my convenience of being able to mourn properly. Having a person that died or whatever shouldn't suddenly mean I'm the victim of the day and everyone else should bend over to make my day better. If anything, that wouldn't even scale. That said it's moot because I personally have neither option heh.
lazyasciiart 6y ago
A grandparent who wants to visit a newborn is the epitome of "neither of you should travel". It's like people don't even consider the option of actually adjusting their expectations based on changed world conditions. Easy for me to say, of course, since I live far enough away from my family that I've already become used to missing funerals and weddings and babies, and now I couldn't go home if I wanted to.

jefftk 6y ago

> Having everyone wearing full body pods isn't feasible. How is someone wearing a full body pod in a window seat (as pictured in the article) causing problems for others?

nharada 6y ago
I'm guessing it's a safety thing? Having a bunch of people in bubble suits would make it really hard to evacuate the plane.
- ragnese 6y ago
  Wouldn't this be a simple case of measuring the probability of needing to evacuate the plane quickly vs. probability of catching covid-19 and dying? Honestly, right now, for an elderly person, the covid risk is probably higher.
  - wizzwizz4 6y ago
    Conditional probability is a bit too advanced for the people making these decisions at the moment. (That's not to say that they're incapable of taking it into account; I'm sure most of them would be able to understand and use the concepts. They just don't.)
  - ketamine__ 6y ago
    Isolating at home is a good way to stay safe if vulnerable.
    - OJFord 6y ago
      ..from both eventualities!
  - thinkharderdev 6y ago
    Theoretically you could, but in practice I don't know that we can reliably determine either of those probabilities with any accuracy. For instance, COVID risk is highly dependent (even for elderly people) on the presence of comorbidities. Are you going to ask everyone on the flight for their medical history?

Hnaomyiph 6y ago

Not to mention the egress issues large safety equipment might cause. I can’t imagine an emergency deplane where everyone is effectively in inflatable sumo suits.

mrob 6y ago
This is a reasonable position, assuming you're also in favor of banning obese people from flights.
- WilTimSon 6y ago
  There's a difference between people's own weight which they can't easily control or change and excessive personal protection which can be swapped for a mask and a bottle of hand sanitizer. I don't see the reason for banning these outright though, maybe just choose a section of the cabin where people wearing these can be grouped. It's convenient for everyone and doesn't pose any extra risks for the rest of the passengers.
- thinkharderdev 6y ago
  I think the concern with the pods is different from large body mass. The pod gets tossed (presumably) in an emergency situation so it can end up somewhere that is blocking someone else from safely evacuating. It would be less like an obese person than a normal weight person wearing a fat suit which they discard and throw in the aisle if they have to emergency deplane.