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Furthermore, I doubt that the lack of ‘transparency’ was entirely accidental. At least since Enron, the management of large enterprises has become adept at enco

Furthermore, I doubt that the lack of ‘transparency’ was entirely accidental. At least since Enron, the management of large enterprises has become adept at encouraging or subtly coercing its employees to do what it takes to get the desired results, while they remain nominally unaware of what is being done.

Jgrubb 6y ago
Like the mob.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
They're not stupid. What do you expect them to do? Being transparent clearly comes with risk and 2020 clearly increases risk. To not insulate against that would be to not do their jobs. You get what you incentivize.
- bumby 6y ago
  >What do you expect them to do? For starters, display good leadership traits like accountability, including to themselves. I'm worried the signal we're sending right now is that weak leadership traits are rewarded which incentivizes weak leaders.
  - piptastic 6y ago
    "right now" has been going on for many, many years.
    - bumby 6y ago
      True, I shouldn't have used such vague language
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    And what's their incentive to do that? These people's success is measured in dollars and little else so of course everything gets thrown under the bus if doing so will make more money.
    - bumby 6y ago
      I think we're saying the same thing. My point is that such weak leadership should at least be dis-incentivized. There's plenty of ways to do so from fines, to jail time, to making the individuals industry pariahs. We incentivize what we value; it seems like we may be valuing money over character.
- mannykannot 6y ago
  > What do you expect them to do? Who are 'them'? The executives of these companies? Yes, of course some of them will act this way at least some of the time, and the question is what do we do, if we don't like it? We have some options, such as preferring candidates who favor stronger accountability and effective protection of whistle-blowers, and who are opposed to installing, as the political appointees heading the regulatory bodies such as the FAA, people to whom these executives can go to to get pressure applied to the professional regulators to back off their objections to what is going on. We can also support responsible investigative journalism by subscribing to it. So, yeah, I'm not expecting things to improve anytime soon.

Jgrubb 6y ago

Like the mob.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

They're not stupid. What do you expect them to do? Being transparent clearly comes with risk and 2020 clearly increases risk. To not insulate against that would be to not do their jobs. You get what you incentivize.

bumby 6y ago
>What do you expect them to do? For starters, display good leadership traits like accountability, including to themselves. I'm worried the signal we're sending right now is that weak leadership traits are rewarded which incentivizes weak leaders.
- piptastic 6y ago
  "right now" has been going on for many, many years.
  - bumby 6y ago
    True, I shouldn't have used such vague language
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  And what's their incentive to do that? These people's success is measured in dollars and little else so of course everything gets thrown under the bus if doing so will make more money.
  - bumby 6y ago
    I think we're saying the same thing. My point is that such weak leadership should at least be dis-incentivized. There's plenty of ways to do so from fines, to jail time, to making the individuals industry pariahs. We incentivize what we value; it seems like we may be valuing money over character.
mannykannot 6y ago
> What do you expect them to do? Who are 'them'? The executives of these companies? Yes, of course some of them will act this way at least some of the time, and the question is what do we do, if we don't like it? We have some options, such as preferring candidates who favor stronger accountability and effective protection of whistle-blowers, and who are opposed to installing, as the political appointees heading the regulatory bodies such as the FAA, people to whom these executives can go to to get pressure applied to the professional regulators to back off their objections to what is going on. We can also support responsible investigative journalism by subscribing to it. So, yeah, I'm not expecting things to improve anytime soon.