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>> A statement from ranking member Sam Graves of Missouri says, "if aviation and safety experts determine that areas in the FAA's processes for certifying aircr

>> A statement from ranking member Sam Graves of Missouri says, "if aviation and safety experts determine that areas in the FAA's processes for certifying aircraft and equipment can be improved, then Congress will act." This statement alone is hilarious considering that the FAA approval is a poster-child example of regulatory capture. Here's the secret: the FAA let's the companies SELF-REGULATE and SELF-APPROVE planes. The FAA did NOT approve the Max, because Boeing did. >>A total of 79 companies are allowed under federal policies to let engineers or other workers considered qualified report on safety to the FAA on systems deemed not to be the most critical rather than leaving all inspections to the government agency. >>To critics, it's a regulatory blind spot. Once you know how this works, that statement by bad-faith-actor Sam Graves is laid bare. Of course we know how to improve the processes: Step 1: Don't put the Fox in charge of the Hens! >>> How you can misrepresent the other side so badly and still be so self righteous is beyond me." Something you yourself could have learned from before posting!

TheHypnotist 6y ago
Bad faith brought to you by Boeing: "Here are the total contributions from Boeing to members of the House Aviation Subcommittee during the 2018 election cycle. Republicans: Troy Balderson (R-Ohio) $0. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pennsylvania) $9,700. Mike Gallagher (R-Wisconsin) $5,999. Garret Graves (R-Louisiana) $6,000. Sam Graves (R-Missouri) $10,000. John Katko (R-New York) $15,400. Thomas Massie (R-Kentucky) $0. Brian Mast (R-Florida) $7,681. Paul Mitchell (R-Michigan) $5,000. Scott Perry (R-Pennsylvania) $3,000. David Rouzer (R-North Carolina) $2,000. Lloyd Smucker (R-Pennsylvania) $8,000. Ross Spano (R-Florida) $0. Pete Stauber (R-Minnesota) $0. Daniel Webster (R-Florida) $0. Rob Woodall (R-Georgia) $2,000. Don Young (R-Alaska) $1,000. Total Boeing Contributions to Republicans on the Aviation Subcommittee $75,780. Average for each of the 17 members: $4,457. Democrats: Colin Allred (D-Texas) $94. Anthony Brown (D-Maryland) $8,500. Julia Brownley (D-California) $0. Salud Carbajal (D-California) $5,000. Andre Carson (D-Indiana) $10,000. Steve Cohen (D-Tennessee) $2,000. Angie Craig (D-Minnesota) $703. Sharice Davids (D-Kansas) $122. Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon) $5,000. Jesus Garcia (D-Illinois) $0. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) $6,000. Henry Johnson (D-Georgia) $1,000. Rick Larsen (D-Washington) $7,048. Daniel Lipinski (D-Illinois) $6,000. Stephen Lynch (D-Massachusetts) $0. Sean Patrick Maloney (D-New York) $3,500. Grace Napolitano (D-Washington) $0. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) $0. Donald Payne (D-New Jersey) $1,000. Stacey Plaskett (D-USVI) $0. Greg Stanton (D-Arizona) $2. Dina Titus (D-Nevada) $3,000. Total Amount Boeing contributions to Democrats on the Aviation Subcommittee in 2018 cycle: $58,969. Average for each of the 22 members. $2,680. Total contributed by Boeing to the 39 members of the Subcommittee: $134,749. Average per member: $3,455." Source: https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/blaming-dead-pilots-brought-to-you-by-boeing/ https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/blaming-dead...
- jacquesm 6y ago
  "What is not surprising is that congress can be bought, what is surprising is how cheap it is" or something to that effect.
- apacheCamel 6y ago
  >Greg Stanton (D-Arizona) $2 You know, there has to be a story behind this. I'm not sure what it is, but I hope it is good.
kortilla 6y ago
> Don't put the Fox in charge of the Hens! The implication of course being that Boeing and its engineers want to kill people and the only thing standing between them and their goals of mass murder is the government.
- dointheatl 6y ago
  The implication being that Boeing wanted to ship this plane on time, even if that meant cutting corners on safety, except that it isn't an implication because it is literally what happened.
- jasonwatkinspdx 6y ago
  The engineers are constrained in authority. Management is ultimately responsible. It's not that management wants to kill people on a personal/visceral level, it's that they're willing to take on unacceptable risks in order to lock in short term monetary gains. We have seen this over and over again with modern large corporations, across industries. And is it surprising management behaves this way? Their compensation is directly tied to short term stock value shifts. Meanwhile, when the game of musical chairs stops, they know that they'll still be able to make a lateral career shift to another similar company and just play the same game all over again.

TheHypnotist 6y ago

Bad faith brought to you by Boeing: "Here are the total contributions from Boeing to members of the House Aviation Subcommittee during the 2018 election cycle. Republicans: Troy Balderson (R-Ohio) $0. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pennsylvania) $9,700. Mike Gallagher (R-Wisconsin) $5,999. Garret Graves (R-Louisiana) $6,000. Sam Graves (R-Missouri) $10,000. John Katko (R-New York) $15,400. Thomas Massie (R-Kentucky) $0. Brian Mast (R-Florida) $7,681. Paul Mitchell (R-Michigan) $5,000. Scott Perry (R-Pennsylvania) $3,000. David Rouzer (R-North Carolina) $2,000. Lloyd Smucker (R-Pennsylvania) $8,000. Ross Spano (R-Florida) $0. Pete Stauber (R-Minnesota) $0. Daniel Webster (R-Florida) $0. Rob Woodall (R-Georgia) $2,000. Don Young (R-Alaska) $1,000. Total Boeing Contributions to Republicans on the Aviation Subcommittee $75,780. Average for each of the 17 members: $4,457. Democrats: Colin Allred (D-Texas) $94. Anthony Brown (D-Maryland) $8,500. Julia Brownley (D-California) $0. Salud Carbajal (D-California) $5,000. Andre Carson (D-Indiana) $10,000. Steve Cohen (D-Tennessee) $2,000. Angie Craig (D-Minnesota) $703. Sharice Davids (D-Kansas) $122. Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon) $5,000. Jesus Garcia (D-Illinois) $0. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) $6,000. Henry Johnson (D-Georgia) $1,000. Rick Larsen (D-Washington) $7,048. Daniel Lipinski (D-Illinois) $6,000. Stephen Lynch (D-Massachusetts) $0. Sean Patrick Maloney (D-New York) $3,500. Grace Napolitano (D-Washington) $0. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) $0. Donald Payne (D-New Jersey) $1,000. Stacey Plaskett (D-USVI) $0. Greg Stanton (D-Arizona) $2. Dina Titus (D-Nevada) $3,000. Total Amount Boeing contributions to Democrats on the Aviation Subcommittee in 2018 cycle: $58,969. Average for each of the 22 members. $2,680. Total contributed by Boeing to the 39 members of the Subcommittee: $134,749. Average per member: $3,455." Source: https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/blaming-dead-pilots-brought-to-you-by-boeing/ https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/blaming-dead...

jacquesm 6y ago
"What is not surprising is that congress can be bought, what is surprising is how cheap it is" or something to that effect.
apacheCamel 6y ago
>Greg Stanton (D-Arizona) $2 You know, there has to be a story behind this. I'm not sure what it is, but I hope it is good.

kortilla 6y ago

> Don't put the Fox in charge of the Hens! The implication of course being that Boeing and its engineers want to kill people and the only thing standing between them and their goals of mass murder is the government.

dointheatl 6y ago
The implication being that Boeing wanted to ship this plane on time, even if that meant cutting corners on safety, except that it isn't an implication because it is literally what happened.
jasonwatkinspdx 6y ago
The engineers are constrained in authority. Management is ultimately responsible. It's not that management wants to kill people on a personal/visceral level, it's that they're willing to take on unacceptable risks in order to lock in short term monetary gains. We have seen this over and over again with modern large corporations, across industries. And is it surprising management behaves this way? Their compensation is directly tied to short term stock value shifts. Meanwhile, when the game of musical chairs stops, they know that they'll still be able to make a lateral career shift to another similar company and just play the same game all over again.