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Nearly nine-tenths of US adults are probably unaware that 20m Russian soliders died in WWII.

zimpenfish 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_losses_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_... has military deaths for the Soviet Union at between 8 and 11M - bad but some way short of 20M.
- asimjalis 6y ago
  Who are you going to believe? An anonymous poster on Wikipedia or an anonymous poster on HN?
  - zimpenfish 6y ago
    The anonymous poster(s) on Wikipedia do include links to sources, including, e.g., http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/SovietLosses.pdf http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/SovietLosses.pd... which has the 11M estimate and seems reasonably well researched.
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- pacificmint 6y ago
  For soldiers, that’s correct. However, if you include civilian deaths you do hit the 20 million number. And that’s the lower estimate.
  - zimpenfish 6y ago
    Yes, but the original statement specifically said 20M soldiers, not "soldiers and civilians".
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082349872349872 6y ago
More to the point: Casualties (source: Wikipedia) 3,436,066 USSR, Battle of Leningrad 1,129,619 USSR, Battle of Stalingrad[1] 1,076,245 US, all battles (europe + pacific) [1] a crucial battle: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23612474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23612474
rasz 6y ago
and probably close to 100% dont know about 22K Polish officers murdered (shot in the back of the head) and further ~150K killed in concentration camps by Russians directly during and after WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre Btw Russians have a funny way of counting WW2 casualties, they include Poles killed by Russians as Russian victims due to annexation of Poland by Russia post ww2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Pol...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_losses_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Human_... has military deaths for the Soviet Union at between 8 and 11M - bad but some way short of 20M.

asimjalis 6y ago
Who are you going to believe? An anonymous poster on Wikipedia or an anonymous poster on HN?
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  The anonymous poster(s) on Wikipedia do include links to sources, including, e.g., http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/SovietLosses.pdf http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/SovietLosses.pd... which has the 11M estimate and seems reasonably well researched.
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pacificmint 6y ago
For soldiers, that’s correct. However, if you include civilian deaths you do hit the 20 million number. And that’s the lower estimate.
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  Yes, but the original statement specifically said 20M soldiers, not "soldiers and civilians".
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082349872349872 6y ago

More to the point: Casualties (source: Wikipedia) 3,436,066 USSR, Battle of Leningrad 1,129,619 USSR, Battle of Stalingrad[1] 1,076,245 US, all battles (europe + pacific) [1] a crucial battle: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23612474 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23612474

rasz 6y ago

and probably close to 100% dont know about 22K Polish officers murdered (shot in the back of the head) and further ~150K killed in concentration camps by Russians directly during and after WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre Btw Russians have a funny way of counting WW2 casualties, they include Poles killed by Russians as Russian victims due to annexation of Poland by Russia post ww2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Pol...