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So why aren't they the senators instead of the morons they back?

by mondoshawan 6y ago

qaq 6y ago
would people actually vote for them?
- mhh__ 6y ago
  Combining brains and charisma is very rare in a politician. Obama being the textbook example - senior law school lecturer but also has the emotional depth and natural charm.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    And he was accused of being a “secret Muslim” trying to bring Sharia law by a large percentage of the population. That and trying to use the military to “takeover” Texas.
  - wasdfff 6y ago
    I’d think the list is shorter of charismatic politicians who hadn’t gone to a top notch law school. Plenty use brains and charm. Even spineless hacks like Mitch McConnel know how to be charismatic around wealthy republicans, and are brilliant, just brilliantly evil.
HatchedLake721 6y ago
Because being smart is not a golden ticket or the only quality required to become a senator/politician.
mhh__ 6y ago
You need to be a certain type of animal to be a successful politician. Especially in the US where the power per person in the senate especially is enormous. The house of commons has 600 more MPs for 5x less population.
Broken_Hippo 6y ago
Because a senator should know how to listen to others. They cannot be an expert on everything. Heck, these folks are making rules about medicine, pollution, car safety, tech issues, teaching, school lunches, interstate highways, commerce, military, child toy standards, what sorts of meat to allow in, and lots of other things I can't think up off of the top of my head. No one can be an expert on all of them - why we would suddenly expect them all to be an expert on this is beyond me. IIRC, an education in law is pretty common, which would be expected. (I know the system isn't perfect and not everyone listens to educated voices and in a perfect world, there would be a range of knowledge in the elected body itself). Edited for a missed comma.
- doukdouk 6y ago
  I think you missed the point - representatives should be expert (at a minimum) in HN interests or come from the same demographics (better) as HN commentators. Anything else means they are "morons", to use the word of the previous commentator.
wasdfff 6y ago
The staffer is a specialist. Intimate knowledge of highway infrastructure, or technology issues alone do not make a senator. A senator is someone who manages a small cabal of specialist experts who collectively hold more knowledge than any one head could ever fit. The job can’t be done by one person, its a coordinated team effort.

So why aren't they the senators instead of the morons they back?

qaq 6y ago

would people actually vote for them?

mhh__ 6y ago
Combining brains and charisma is very rare in a politician. Obama being the textbook example - senior law school lecturer but also has the emotional depth and natural charm.
- scarface74 6y ago
  And he was accused of being a “secret Muslim” trying to bring Sharia law by a large percentage of the population. That and trying to use the military to “takeover” Texas.
- wasdfff 6y ago
  I’d think the list is shorter of charismatic politicians who hadn’t gone to a top notch law school. Plenty use brains and charm. Even spineless hacks like Mitch McConnel know how to be charismatic around wealthy republicans, and are brilliant, just brilliantly evil.

HatchedLake721 6y ago

Because being smart is not a golden ticket or the only quality required to become a senator/politician.

mhh__ 6y ago

You need to be a certain type of animal to be a successful politician. Especially in the US where the power per person in the senate especially is enormous. The house of commons has 600 more MPs for 5x less population.

Broken_Hippo 6y ago

Because a senator should know how to listen to others. They cannot be an expert on everything. Heck, these folks are making rules about medicine, pollution, car safety, tech issues, teaching, school lunches, interstate highways, commerce, military, child toy standards, what sorts of meat to allow in, and lots of other things I can't think up off of the top of my head. No one can be an expert on all of them - why we would suddenly expect them all to be an expert on this is beyond me. IIRC, an education in law is pretty common, which would be expected. (I know the system isn't perfect and not everyone listens to educated voices and in a perfect world, there would be a range of knowledge in the elected body itself). Edited for a missed comma.

doukdouk 6y ago
I think you missed the point - representatives should be expert (at a minimum) in HN interests or come from the same demographics (better) as HN commentators. Anything else means they are "morons", to use the word of the previous commentator.

wasdfff 6y ago

The staffer is a specialist. Intimate knowledge of highway infrastructure, or technology issues alone do not make a senator. A senator is someone who manages a small cabal of specialist experts who collectively hold more knowledge than any one head could ever fit. The job can’t be done by one person, its a coordinated team effort.