> do on their own property ... Yea, but their property doesn't exist in a vacuum. They have neighbours and there's always downstream effects. I'd say part of

> do on their own property ... Yea, but their property doesn't exist in a vacuum. They have neighbours and there's always downstream effects. I'd say part of this attitude is an effect of rights becoming disconnected from responsibilities. Like, sure, one may "own" the land, but it better be well take care of, be a good steward. Not because there's immediate bad effects, but because those effects diffuse into the real non-human world.