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Since privacy is a key differentiator for them (huge financial incentives to actually deliver and not just pay lip service), and there are significant penalties
by EricE 6y ago
Since privacy is a key differentiator for them (huge financial incentives to actually deliver and not just pay lip service), and there are significant penalties waiting for them if they are lying about protecting privacy (as well as plenty of people who would love to call them out on it), Apple is probably the most trustworthy of any organization if you care about privacy. Also you can keep your data local with Apple hardware - it's encrypted and only available to your hardware - obviously a lot of the functionality they profiled today doesn't work if you take that stance, but it is an option.
- sleavey 6y agoIs it possible to download the data from the watch without an iDevice?
- EricE 6y agoProbably not - I haven't heard about a jailbreak for Apple watches. There have been rumors that Apple may release the Apple Watch for Android. I think it would be fascinating if they did so.
- Nullabillity 6y ago> huge financial incentives to actually deliver and not just pay lip service Which? It's still all closed source and tivoized, so you're still taking their word for it. At most they'd have to bullshit together some whitepaper about what they claim to do. > and there are significant penalties waiting for them if they are lying about protecting privacy The same "significant" penalties that were applied to Equifax? > Also you can keep your data local with Apple hardware - it's encrypted and only available to your hardware Based on... their claims?
- EricE 6y agoThey already have several white papers about how they treat privacy - dunno why you would assume they are bullshit right off the bat. As for validating their claims I don't need source code for that. There are enough people (like you, apparently) that have an axe to grind that would be more than happy to point out any malfeasance - for me that's far more valuable than having source code available.
- damnyou 6y agoImagine believing this after seeing Apple's consistent lying about iMessage being "end-to-end encrypted": https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive/exclusive-apple-dropped-plan-for-encrypting-backups-after-fbi-complained-sources-idUSKBN1ZK1CT https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...
- tpetry 6y agoOh it‘s end-to-end encrypted. Whether the received and decrypted message on the iphone is saved end-to-end encrypted in a backup is another topic...
- Dahoon 6y agoPrivacy, by one of the biggest NSA data providers?