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If Apple did this for home workouts I would subscribe to Fitness+ in a heartbeat. I currently practice yoga at home, and the worst part is I don't have an instr

If Apple did this for home workouts I would subscribe to Fitness+ in a heartbeat. I currently practice yoga at home, and the worst part is I don't have an instructor to correct my form.

coolioxlr 6y ago
Check out Mixpose https://mixpose.com/ https://mixpose.com/ . It's a livestream yoga app on iOS,Android and Web with 3+ live classes a day. Since it's live the instructor can correct your form when you have hard time doing it. Eventually we are going to turn on the AI pose tracking. Disclaimer: I am the co-founder so let me know if you have any question.
- shadowoflight 6y ago
  Your service looks pretty cool, but there are a few things preventing me from using it: 1) Not having a live instructor is both a blessing and a curse, but largely a blessing for us introverts - I'm not comfortable with somebody watching me work out. But maybe I'll give Mixpose a shot when the AI option is released and has had time to mature. 2. I can't personally justify the high cost of the Mixpose service - an actual gym membership is around the same price (and that includes a couple of 1-on-1 personal trainer sessions each month), and my current yoga app (without feedback, admittedly) is $20 per year. In direct comparison to Apple Fitness+, I can sign my wife and myself up for the new Apple One Premiere bundle for $30/mo and get music streaming, news, 2TB of storage, and other goodies on top of Fitness+. 3. If the rumors of Fitness+ utilizing iPhone camera and Watch sensor information simultaneously are true, I feel other AI form-correction solutions won't stand a chance - but I'd be happy to be disproved on that front!
  - coolioxlr 6y ago
    Great feedback. We are not in the VOD business since it's just too competitive and there are a lot of great free contents on Youtube already. Fitness+ is only using Apple Watch.
    - shadowoflight 6y ago
      Yeah, probably a good call to not try to compete in the fitness VOD sphere, it seems to be a very quick race to the bottom. For the record, I do think your offering is a good and innovative solution to the issue of wanting to workout in the comfort of your own home but also wanting in-person classes and personalized training - I just don't think it's for me, personally. > Fitness+ is only using Apple Watch. While this is currently true, my original comment was stating that Fitness+ would be worth it to me, for $10/mo, if Apple were to make an integrated movement tracking system using multiple devices, as the comment I replied to posted.
  - kmonsen 6y ago
    What is the pricing? It seems to all be free on the webpage.
    - shadowoflight 6y ago
      I'm unsure what the pricing scheme is if you purchase through the Mixpose website or Android app, but it's $20/mo or $200/yr through iOS in-app purchase.
    - coolioxlr 6y ago
      75% percent of the classes are free now. On the web is all free now but we plan to turn on the subscription soon and will add more live classes soon.
wellthisisgreat 6y ago
You can try https://yoganotch.com https://yoganotch.com - uses motion sensors to give feedback on yoga form
- coolioxlr 6y ago
  Cool product if it really works. But too much work and friction to put on the sensors if I want to quickly do a workout.
- rocketina 6y ago
  cool design! + I don't need to film myself while doing yoga. what is the accuracy?
  - yoganotch 6y ago
    Thank you! I am one of the founders, the accuracy will vary depending on how the person is wearing it, but regardless it will be well within clinically acceptable values for something like physiotherapy or rehab. Yoganotch itself is new (2020) but we've been building these devices for a few years - have a number of peer reviewed papers published based on Notch (https://wearnotch.com/papers https://wearnotch.com/papers).
    - shadowoflight 6y ago
      This looks like a very interesting solution! Is there a subscription fee for the YogaNotch app, as well, or is it just the one-time sensor purchase?
      - yoganotch 6y ago
        No, there is no subscription :)
- audrey21emu 6y ago
  Actually it takes a minute to put four sensors on and calibrate your posture before class. I’ve used it since my gym shut down in March, and do not plan to return there any time soon. This sensor kit with the free app with cool classes totally transformed my practice with respect to the depth, focus and effectiveness. Imagine having a private teacher who is paying attention to you, measuring your posture in Asana, gives you immediate feedback and praises you when you do it right... and it costs a fraction of $ you would pay for your private session. None of the big fitness brands come even close to this technologically. It’s a future of home yoga practice whether some may resist “invasion” of tech in yoga or not.
ascagnel_ 6y ago
This seems like a good use for AR -- Epic was showing off an app a few weeks ago where Unreal Engine devs could use the front-facing cameras on iDevices to capture skeletal animations, and I could see a fitness app using this tech to detect bone positions and provide guidance.
rosywoozlechan 6y ago
Everyone is different, and there's not going to be an automated way to fix your movement and training form unless the app can ask you questions as it walks around you to look at you from all sides. Generic form guide for a heavy squat could lead to injuries. Our bodies are too varied for this to be feasible at the moment.
- shadowoflight 6y ago
  I could see a combination of iPhone cameras and sensors + Apple Watch sensors offering a fairly good picture for an AI program to base form critique off.
- coolioxlr 6y ago
  Totally agreed. There are too many problem of using computer vision. Camera angle, lightening and even the cloth you wear will make the differences. End of day people just want to do workout instead of finicking with technology.

If Apple did this for home workouts I would subscribe to Fitness+ in a heartbeat. I currently practice yoga at home, and the worst part is I don't have an instructor to correct my form.

coolioxlr 6y ago

Check out Mixpose https://mixpose.com/ https://mixpose.com/ . It's a livestream yoga app on iOS,Android and Web with 3+ live classes a day. Since it's live the instructor can correct your form when you have hard time doing it. Eventually we are going to turn on the AI pose tracking. Disclaimer: I am the co-founder so let me know if you have any question.

shadowoflight 6y ago
Your service looks pretty cool, but there are a few things preventing me from using it: 1) Not having a live instructor is both a blessing and a curse, but largely a blessing for us introverts - I'm not comfortable with somebody watching me work out. But maybe I'll give Mixpose a shot when the AI option is released and has had time to mature. 2. I can't personally justify the high cost of the Mixpose service - an actual gym membership is around the same price (and that includes a couple of 1-on-1 personal trainer sessions each month), and my current yoga app (without feedback, admittedly) is $20 per year. In direct comparison to Apple Fitness+, I can sign my wife and myself up for the new Apple One Premiere bundle for $30/mo and get music streaming, news, 2TB of storage, and other goodies on top of Fitness+. 3. If the rumors of Fitness+ utilizing iPhone camera and Watch sensor information simultaneously are true, I feel other AI form-correction solutions won't stand a chance - but I'd be happy to be disproved on that front!
- coolioxlr 6y ago
  Great feedback. We are not in the VOD business since it's just too competitive and there are a lot of great free contents on Youtube already. Fitness+ is only using Apple Watch.
  - shadowoflight 6y ago
    Yeah, probably a good call to not try to compete in the fitness VOD sphere, it seems to be a very quick race to the bottom. For the record, I do think your offering is a good and innovative solution to the issue of wanting to workout in the comfort of your own home but also wanting in-person classes and personalized training - I just don't think it's for me, personally. > Fitness+ is only using Apple Watch. While this is currently true, my original comment was stating that Fitness+ would be worth it to me, for $10/mo, if Apple were to make an integrated movement tracking system using multiple devices, as the comment I replied to posted.
- kmonsen 6y ago
  What is the pricing? It seems to all be free on the webpage.
  - shadowoflight 6y ago
    I'm unsure what the pricing scheme is if you purchase through the Mixpose website or Android app, but it's $20/mo or $200/yr through iOS in-app purchase.
  - coolioxlr 6y ago
    75% percent of the classes are free now. On the web is all free now but we plan to turn on the subscription soon and will add more live classes soon.

wellthisisgreat 6y ago

You can try https://yoganotch.com https://yoganotch.com - uses motion sensors to give feedback on yoga form

coolioxlr 6y ago
Cool product if it really works. But too much work and friction to put on the sensors if I want to quickly do a workout.
rocketina 6y ago
cool design! + I don't need to film myself while doing yoga. what is the accuracy?
- yoganotch 6y ago
  Thank you! I am one of the founders, the accuracy will vary depending on how the person is wearing it, but regardless it will be well within clinically acceptable values for something like physiotherapy or rehab. Yoganotch itself is new (2020) but we've been building these devices for a few years - have a number of peer reviewed papers published based on Notch (https://wearnotch.com/papers https://wearnotch.com/papers).
  - shadowoflight 6y ago
    This looks like a very interesting solution! Is there a subscription fee for the YogaNotch app, as well, or is it just the one-time sensor purchase?
    - yoganotch 6y ago
      No, there is no subscription :)
audrey21emu 6y ago
Actually it takes a minute to put four sensors on and calibrate your posture before class. I’ve used it since my gym shut down in March, and do not plan to return there any time soon. This sensor kit with the free app with cool classes totally transformed my practice with respect to the depth, focus and effectiveness. Imagine having a private teacher who is paying attention to you, measuring your posture in Asana, gives you immediate feedback and praises you when you do it right... and it costs a fraction of $ you would pay for your private session. None of the big fitness brands come even close to this technologically. It’s a future of home yoga practice whether some may resist “invasion” of tech in yoga or not.

ascagnel_ 6y ago

This seems like a good use for AR -- Epic was showing off an app a few weeks ago where Unreal Engine devs could use the front-facing cameras on iDevices to capture skeletal animations, and I could see a fitness app using this tech to detect bone positions and provide guidance.

rosywoozlechan 6y ago

Everyone is different, and there's not going to be an automated way to fix your movement and training form unless the app can ask you questions as it walks around you to look at you from all sides. Generic form guide for a heavy squat could lead to injuries. Our bodies are too varied for this to be feasible at the moment.

shadowoflight 6y ago
I could see a combination of iPhone cameras and sensors + Apple Watch sensors offering a fairly good picture for an AI program to base form critique off.
coolioxlr 6y ago
Totally agreed. There are too many problem of using computer vision. Camera angle, lightening and even the cloth you wear will make the differences. End of day people just want to do workout instead of finicking with technology.