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Interesting. It seems almost immoral to interview new hires when you know there are insurmountable problems at the company that make you consider leaving. Not

Interesting. It seems almost immoral to interview new hires when you know there are insurmountable problems at the company that make you consider leaving. Not saying you are immoral here -- just that it does seem to pose a dilemma. I have not had to interview someone for a company that I want to leave. It sounds like it would suck and require some level of internalized rationalization to go through with it.

hinkley 6y ago
Two things. One, you don't always know the answer to a question until someone asks it, and then you can't un-hear the question. I thought I was just grouchy until asked, and then I realized I was properly unhappy in this role. Which I said makes me uncomfortable about asking hard questions of people I don't know and probably will never work with. Two, it's easier to leave a place when you know you've left a project in good hands, instead of knowing things will unravel if you do. Mostly, it's an ethical problem if you sabotage the hiring. But I'll agree that there is a tension between professionalism and social responsibility. What do I owe to my employer, what do I owe to the local developer community? The next time I interviewed, a guy I had a lot of respect for referred me to a used-car-salesman of a recruiter for a place he was leaving. I did contract-to-hire, walked away from that one. Felt a bit like a meat shield to cover his retreat. I realized all the things I respected him for were past tense, and honor that but stay the hell away from him now.
maffydub 6y ago
"insurmountable problems at the company that make you consider leaving" Is the problem with the company or that the company is no longer a good fit for the interviewer? Personally, I've been interviewing people to join the company I work for while also on the lookout for changing jobs and I don't feel it's immoral. I would recommend my current employer in general, but I'm not sure it's still the right place for me.

hinkley 6y ago

Two things. One, you don't always know the answer to a question until someone asks it, and then you can't un-hear the question. I thought I was just grouchy until asked, and then I realized I was properly unhappy in this role. Which I said makes me uncomfortable about asking hard questions of people I don't know and probably will never work with. Two, it's easier to leave a place when you know you've left a project in good hands, instead of knowing things will unravel if you do. Mostly, it's an ethical problem if you sabotage the hiring. But I'll agree that there is a tension between professionalism and social responsibility. What do I owe to my employer, what do I owe to the local developer community? The next time I interviewed, a guy I had a lot of respect for referred me to a used-car-salesman of a recruiter for a place he was leaving. I did contract-to-hire, walked away from that one. Felt a bit like a meat shield to cover his retreat. I realized all the things I respected him for were past tense, and honor that but stay the hell away from him now.

maffydub 6y ago

"insurmountable problems at the company that make you consider leaving" Is the problem with the company or that the company is no longer a good fit for the interviewer? Personally, I've been interviewing people to join the company I work for while also on the lookout for changing jobs and I don't feel it's immoral. I would recommend my current employer in general, but I'm not sure it's still the right place for me.