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Don't insinuate your point. State it if you have any convinction. How do you think this invalidates or relates to the topic at hand? People can't engage either

Don't insinuate your point. State it if you have any convinction. How do you think this invalidates or relates to the topic at hand? People can't engage either positively or negatively unless you actually make a clear point. I'm not currently convinced you have a coherent one but I look forward to being proved wrong.

non-entity 6y ago
Don't feed the troll. This is a flamebait account. I've seen it pop up many times.
- andybak 6y ago
  Yes but leaving shit like this unchallenged isn't healthy either.
- growlist 6y ago
  You just don't like what I'm saying.
growlist 6y ago
The point I'm making is that (at least as far as the UK is concerned), you can't get away with painting the right as nutters engaged in whipping up fears over nothing when there is rock solid substance that what they (the right) were saying for decades was actually true, i.e. that children were being abused by people predominantly from particular groups, and that this abuse was being deliberately ignored. And what makes the cases in the UK particularly poignant is that it was leftist concerns i.e. political correctness that motivated the cover-ups. If you were a child in the crosshairs, you absolutely did need to be afraid of the left.
- andybak 6y ago
  That's better. You sound less like a drive-by troll now. However you're fighting the wrong battle here. There is some merit in your arguments and the left has often been blind to valid issues due to focusing on other concerns (spending a fair chunk of the 20th century defending Soviet oppression and mass murder springs to mind) But that's only loosely related to the article under discussion which seems a clear, inarguable example of a portion of the right that are promoting and presumably investing in theories that are utterly bonkers. Nobody is claiming that "believing bollocks" is the exclusive preserve of either end of the political spectrum but what's going on at the moment with QAnon, Covid denial and other extreme belief systems is surely something we should all be united in trying to fight?
  - growlist 6y ago
    > inarguable example of a portion of the right that are promoting and presumably investing in theories that are utterly bonkers. I've given you an example of something that was labelled a 'conspiracy theory' by the left that turned out to be absolutely true, and in fact even worse than suspected when the truth came out. Furthermore, it was in fact the left that was engaging in conspiracy! Apart from that it's blindingly obvious that the author is using the beliefs of a minority as a vehicle to attack the (non-wingnut) majority of the right, and to delegitimise criticism of leftism.

non-entity 6y ago

Don't feed the troll. This is a flamebait account. I've seen it pop up many times.

andybak 6y ago
Yes but leaving shit like this unchallenged isn't healthy either.
growlist 6y ago
You just don't like what I'm saying.

growlist 6y ago

The point I'm making is that (at least as far as the UK is concerned), you can't get away with painting the right as nutters engaged in whipping up fears over nothing when there is rock solid substance that what they (the right) were saying for decades was actually true, i.e. that children were being abused by people predominantly from particular groups, and that this abuse was being deliberately ignored. And what makes the cases in the UK particularly poignant is that it was leftist concerns i.e. political correctness that motivated the cover-ups. If you were a child in the crosshairs, you absolutely did need to be afraid of the left.

andybak 6y ago
That's better. You sound less like a drive-by troll now. However you're fighting the wrong battle here. There is some merit in your arguments and the left has often been blind to valid issues due to focusing on other concerns (spending a fair chunk of the 20th century defending Soviet oppression and mass murder springs to mind) But that's only loosely related to the article under discussion which seems a clear, inarguable example of a portion of the right that are promoting and presumably investing in theories that are utterly bonkers. Nobody is claiming that "believing bollocks" is the exclusive preserve of either end of the political spectrum but what's going on at the moment with QAnon, Covid denial and other extreme belief systems is surely something we should all be united in trying to fight?
- growlist 6y ago
  > inarguable example of a portion of the right that are promoting and presumably investing in theories that are utterly bonkers. I've given you an example of something that was labelled a 'conspiracy theory' by the left that turned out to be absolutely true, and in fact even worse than suspected when the truth came out. Furthermore, it was in fact the left that was engaging in conspiracy! Apart from that it's blindingly obvious that the author is using the beliefs of a minority as a vehicle to attack the (non-wingnut) majority of the right, and to delegitimise criticism of leftism.