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Is it in line with YouTube's TOS to embed them like this? Without displaying the video gui? It also seems to somehow supress the ads?

by TekMol 6y ago

ralphstodomingo 6y ago
Asking the same questions, and some more: I like the idea, and the app looks cool. I just wish there was a way to just get the audio streams from these channels and have the video constantly looping be embedded into the app or something. The reason why I don't stay tuned to the YT channels is exactly because of ads, and I don't like my bandwidth being consumed by video when I'm not watching anything.
- yellowapple 6y ago
  > The reason why I don't stay tuned to the YT channels is exactly because of ads This is why God gave us ad blockers :)
  - FractalParadigm 6y ago
    I'm curious - are there good adblockers today that can block YouTube ads? I vaguely remember uBlock Origin facing the problem of Google serving ads from the same domains/addresses as the actual video, making adblocking on YouTube virtually impossible.
    - gillesjacobs 6y ago
      uBlock Origin (even with default block lists) + Sponsorblock is what I use for a fully ad-free YouTube experience. Sponsorblock is a crowd-sourced native sponsor-content timeskipper. For medium to large channels it works like a charm. I highly recommend this setup.
    - yellowapple 6y ago
      I use uBlock Origin on Firefox and it seems to work fine for blocking YouTube ads (to the point where I frequently forget YouTube has ads until I make the mistake of trying to access it on a browser lacking an ad-blocker, lol).
  - ralphstodomingo 6y ago
    I mean, that's standard fare these days, but going on YT with an ad blocker just to ensure a smooth, immersive music listening experience seems so... roundabout. Also, I prefer to keep the ad blockers off when I'm on the site just to support those who I want to support, and I'm not on it for most of the time.
skipants 6y ago
I had to implement something similar to this a few years ago. I scoured the ToS to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong by removing the GUI. IIRC it was totally fine as long as you still link to the youtube video. As for ads -- I don't remember how we dealt with those. I don't think embeds show the pre-roll ads, only mid-video ads. Since this is a streaming video I assume it doesn't have those.
- TekMol 6y ago
  How did you remove the GUI?
  - skipants 6y ago
    We used the Youtube API to load the video -- I think their was multiple things we did but you can specifically request no controls be shown: https://developers.google.com/youtube/player_parameters#controls https://developers.google.com/youtube/player_parameters#cont... I was going to link the site I used it on, but it looks like since I worked there they switched to Youtube's controls rather than the custom ones I implemented; not sure why.

Is it in line with YouTube's TOS to embed them like this? Without displaying the video gui? It also seems to somehow supress the ads?

by TekMol 6y ago

Is it in line with YouTube's TOS to embed them like this? Without displaying the video gui? It also seems to somehow supress the ads?

ralphstodomingo 6y ago

Asking the same questions, and some more: I like the idea, and the app looks cool. I just wish there was a way to just get the audio streams from these channels and have the video constantly looping be embedded into the app or something. The reason why I don't stay tuned to the YT channels is exactly because of ads, and I don't like my bandwidth being consumed by video when I'm not watching anything.

yellowapple 6y ago
> The reason why I don't stay tuned to the YT channels is exactly because of ads This is why God gave us ad blockers :)
- FractalParadigm 6y ago
  I'm curious - are there good adblockers today that can block YouTube ads? I vaguely remember uBlock Origin facing the problem of Google serving ads from the same domains/addresses as the actual video, making adblocking on YouTube virtually impossible.
  - gillesjacobs 6y ago
    uBlock Origin (even with default block lists) + Sponsorblock is what I use for a fully ad-free YouTube experience. Sponsorblock is a crowd-sourced native sponsor-content timeskipper. For medium to large channels it works like a charm. I highly recommend this setup.
  - yellowapple 6y ago
    I use uBlock Origin on Firefox and it seems to work fine for blocking YouTube ads (to the point where I frequently forget YouTube has ads until I make the mistake of trying to access it on a browser lacking an ad-blocker, lol).
- ralphstodomingo 6y ago
  I mean, that's standard fare these days, but going on YT with an ad blocker just to ensure a smooth, immersive music listening experience seems so... roundabout. Also, I prefer to keep the ad blockers off when I'm on the site just to support those who I want to support, and I'm not on it for most of the time.

skipants 6y ago

I had to implement something similar to this a few years ago. I scoured the ToS to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong by removing the GUI. IIRC it was totally fine as long as you still link to the youtube video. As for ads -- I don't remember how we dealt with those. I don't think embeds show the pre-roll ads, only mid-video ads. Since this is a streaming video I assume it doesn't have those.

TekMol 6y ago
How did you remove the GUI?
- skipants 6y ago
  We used the Youtube API to load the video -- I think their was multiple things we did but you can specifically request no controls be shown: https://developers.google.com/youtube/player_parameters#controls https://developers.google.com/youtube/player_parameters#cont... I was going to link the site I used it on, but it looks like since I worked there they switched to Youtube's controls rather than the custom ones I implemented; not sure why.